3.5 NA is perfect for city delivery. Turbos need to be worked, especially on the EcoBoosts. Those who put around town and never use WOT, haul a load or tow are better off with another engine choice. Most sales staff don't have any idea of the limitations or capabilities of trucks.

 

I hope that Turbo theory has changed. Right now my truck putts around the suburbs, then a couple times a week I drive to the city and putt around. The 25 mile drive takes 1 hour 15 minutes in and about 90 minutes back. Once nicer weather comes I'll tow the car to some shows or the boat to the lake. Hopefully that will help keep it clean.

 

I dunno...Beechkid's example is the only I've ever heard of a lightly used engine going through turbos. Lots of folks with CAC condensation issues admit rarely getting on the throttle, but I can't remember reading or hearing about another story like that. I'm no mechanic, but I spend time on this forum, f150forum.com, and f150ecoboost.net, and it's downright rare to hear about a turbo failure. I can't recall ever reading one on FTE, and the F150 forums are some of our busiest.

 

I probably should have said turbo engines, rather than just the turbo itself. Ford has addressed this over the years with an improved CAC and the upcoming dual injection. Overall, the EcoBoosts have been great.

I believe though that some people are better served with a more simple, less powerful choice. I don't think there is a bad choice when you look at the engines available, they all have their ideal usage though.

 

Completely agree!!!!!!!!!!

 

I kinda got trashed a little bit by a few back when I originally posted this but, timing chains and turbo's, well, known.......



These (IMHO) are also the newest "Disposible engine" because the troubleshooting &/or repairs will exceed the value of the vehicle real fast!


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15580519
8/19/15, Team Hard
“This truck has been my least favorite Ford truck of all I’ve owned ('88 Ranger, '93 F150, '99 Ranger, '05 F150, '08 F350, '11 F150) due solely to the overly technical and sensitive nature of the modern equipment which seems to produce reliability issues when you use it... like a truck.”

Yeah so 1,400 miles and my Ecoboost has a blown head gasket - Ford Mustang Forum
6-1-15, BLK50
“Yeah so 1,400 miles and my Ecoboost has a blown head gasket, I started it up at work today and drove out of the parking lot and look back and see this huge cloud of white smoke. Pull over and stop and look and there's what smells like steam coming out of the exhaust.” I took it easy on the car and never hit redline in the first 1,000.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15317028
04-30-15, 04:16 PM bctimber
“Well I was driving it made a big bang/ puff noise then the no oil psi came on and runs like its on 2 or 3 cyl.”

Ford 3.5l Ecoboost Engine Failure

04-04-2013, 03:23 PM EcoBoom
“When I went to the dealer I asked them to bring it in and look see what the issue was and what I had though it was. (turbo) they lifted it up and removed the skid plates to find a hole on either side of the block just above the oil pan rail. to shorten this up. They quoted me $12+ to install a new motor”

Dec 10, 2014 1:28 pm inkryptic
http://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=7&t=10429

...#5 was misfiring. It turn out there is a hole in the piston.

2012 F-150 King Ranch - 2 Blown Motors in 23,500 miles | Tundra Headquarters Blog

Engine number 2 blowing up within 3 weeks. Another new long block will be going in as well as turbos and whatever else I need. They found cylinder 3 and 6 had been flooding/running rich and blew apart. Same problem as before. He says they will be testing the fuel injectors and fuel system all around

2012 Ecoboost F150 Engine Failure

08-22-2013 Blueflame12
I have a 2012 F150 with the Ecoboost engine and it has about 34k miles. As I was driving to work, which was only about 4 miles from the dealer, the tapping noise suddenly got very loud following a BANG. The engine began shaking and loosing power. The next day I get a call saying the engine suffered catastrophic failure and was going to be replaced under the warranty. They said metal chunks were found in the oil and the turbos were damaged too

Blown Ecoboost engine - F150online Forums

cburbee 11-04-2014
“I have a 2011 f150 ecoboost. 130000km on it. I was driving down a gravel road 2 days ago and the engine misfired…….went into limp mode……..Backed off on the throttle then gave it again and seemed fine. Got to a stop sign and heard the dredded ticking/knocking coming from engine. Drove straight to the dealership….told me engine is toast, metal filings all through the bottom end. No idea what caused it. I was quoted 15k for the replacement (canadian). Ouch……..don't buy one of these trucks used off warranty unless you have lots of money in case you need to fix it.

Mtnmanut 11-04-2014

“My POS ecoboost did that at 2000 mile. Ticking knocking and lots of shavings in pan and filter. New motor under warranty. first complaints to dealer was **** poor mileage,ticking and knocking. took blowing it up and ford rep to get them to look at it.”

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post14955749

b bricker 12/31/14

F150 Ecoboost timing chain

“My 2012 F150 ecoboost just tossed its timing chain. Ford told me no recalls or notices. After I spoke with a master technician, there is a TSB on the timing chains. Cost me 8000.00 to repair (apparently I am not the only one). Ford did nothing for me. No warning or codes - just tore the valve train out. Thank you Ford for the Christmas Gift....

My experience : be VERY careful with the ecoboost V6

Oh yes, this was after when I first bought the truck and they couldn't find out why it was misfiring within the first year - Ended up replacing the wiring harness and all the coil” packs. At my cost...because guess what? An engine wiring harness is not covered by drive train warranty.

Buyer beware ....on this one. And by the way, I restore my own cars and mechanically inclined and maintain my equipment very well. Soooo....

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post14957404

86fn150 12/31/14
“at our dealership we haven't had one toss the chain but have had maybe 6 or so that ALL the front timing stuff was replaced. All ecoboost engines are junk. Lots of misfires, cooling problems etc….don't buy a new escape -PERIOD (garbage)”

Additionally, issues that are typical of turbo’d gas engines are a continued “Dominent”, and when combined with the higher boost, extended oil changes and smaller (lower capacity) filters, this is not what I would call “A Good Thing”. A few comments from Ford Master Techs……

Black oil from Ecoboost motor - FORD - FlatRateTech

“You are supposed to go 5K-7.5K on an LOF. That way, Ford can sell you either another vehicle, or an engine, after 100K pops up on the clock. Providing it makes it that far. But in honesty, I think the main problems now are the size of the oil filters today.”

“You could try and get into the habit of letting your vehicle idle for a minute or” 2 prior to shutting it off every time you park it.”

“Turbo engines beat the **** out of oil like motorcycles.”

“Knowing the Ford engines and my experience with Mazda, I wouldn't push the oil change interval past 4k miles regardless of synthetic or not. Especially if you beat on the car.”

“Car manufacturers use the customers as lab rats for testing. I'd be concerned that the oil is taking a beating due to the DI, heat from the turbocharger working overtime, and so on. The turbo won't be the only thing taking a beating either.”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

fullsizeblazin December 4, 2014

“The black "soot" he's seeing on the tail pipes is actually oil blow by from the leaky turbos. That's why all turbo Fords smoke so bad. They think they can survive 7,500 miles between oil changes.”

Karrpilot December 2014

“I would also like to add that the problem of intake valve deposits pretty much went away after the fuel additives were improved. In the early 1980's, it seemed that they were doing a lot of experimentation with the fuels. Along with the injectors. If a fuel was good at keeping the intake valves clean, it might gum up the fuel injectors. And vice versa. Now with the direct injection, there isn't any fuel getting sprayed onto the intake valves. But there sure is PCV vapors, EGR gases, and the fuel vapors from the fuel tank getting pulled into the intake tract.

Combine all of this with customers who buy into those 5-7K oil changes, and we have a ticking time bomb.”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

ok44 January 2015

“It would seem to me that especially aged, high miles oil is going to have a real tendency to coke up when subjected to conditions like that. I've changed a number of turbochargers out (foreign cars) and every single one of them failed due to coked oil; and those were ones without the start/stop feature.”

“Ford is just like all the rest; as long as that POS makes it through the warranty period or even better, gets wiped out in a collision and hauled to the boneyard, they're content......”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

Karrpilot January 2015

“Makes me wonder how Ford is going to get out of paying all those claims against them if the customer's follow their owners guide maintenance intervals. Yep. 100K tune ups, 100K coolant change out, 7.5K LOF's, not servicing the PTU units, transmissions, etc.”

“Me thinks I am going to be having my hands quite full in the coming years...............”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

Roger Blose January 2015

“Just received my Feb. issue of Consumer's Report magazine where on page 59 they have a story about the growing problem with DI engine carbon problems.”

 

BeechKid, let's look at the posts 1 by 1.
Team hard - complains of a AC evaporator & a throttle body.
BLK50 - turns out there is no issue.
EcoBoom - Die hard Chevy guy on a Chevy site. Makes 7 posts almost all bashing the EcoBoost. Sounds like BS to me.
inkrtptic - used the wrong oil filter. Ford did replace his engine.
Gosht in the machine - one guys has 4 bad motors in a row seems kind of odd.
Blue Flame - engine problem due to a dealership issue with the oil change.
Cburbee – new user 1 post a complaint. Also posted on diablosports about removing the rev limiter and speed limiter.
Bbricker – new user, 4 posts in 3 days, all negative, then he is gone.
American Steel – hasn’t been active on this site in a couple years. He is a known EcoBoost basher.
FlatRateTech – I can’t access those pages. What I can see from your post everything is his opinion, no facts.
FlatRateTech – I can’t access those pages. The black soot is fuel, it is common with direct injection engines. It is not oil blowing by the turbos.
FlatRateTech - I can’t access those pages. Sounds like he is just bashing Ford in general here.
FlatRateTech - I can’t access those pages. Consumer reports makes a claim about direct injection engines and FlatRateTech turn it into a EcoBoost Bash. I don’t have access to Consumer Reports so I can’t read the article.

Then of course last but not least you’ve been publishing this same exact post on several forums for a couple years now. Makes me think you are a EcoBoost basher as well. I’m pretty sure we went through this same exact post a couple years ago.

 

To me it's simple. If you can't beam em, bash em. I absolutely love the eco-boost in my wife's Escape. When we were shopping, it was actually the Honda salesman that sold us on the Escape. He told us to not even consider it because it's not even in the same league and the CRV. I'm seeing a lot of CRV's that are only a couple of years old that are rusting. I was talking with a Ford dealer and asked him if they ever saw any problems with the eco-boost engine. He said literally the only time they have had problems is when the owner covers the special little air intake that feeds the turbos. Apparently some folks don't like to see that. I'm not even sure what he's talking about there because I haven't looked close enough. As stated, it's simple, Ford is ahead of the group by a large margin so everyone else has to do something to stay in the game.

 

I just joined the forum and was going to post my question when I came upon this thread.

As the title indicates I am looking at a 2016 F-150, w/6 cyl 2.7 L EB engine w/22,000 miles. They are probably all New England miles. It is a Ford Pre-Certified vehicle with a 12 month warranty.

From what I have read here so far it appears that this engine does not have any significant problems. Is that true?

Any help would be greatly appreciated by this almost new Ford F-150 owner.

 

The 2.7 EB has been a really good engine. Very few threads here with any negative comments. Most are pleasantly surprised by the power and fuel economy.

There were a few reported issues of stalling when coming to a stop while towing heavier trailers, but Ford found the issue and will reprogram the PCM of an affected truck.

Welcome to the forum, by the way. I hope you enjoy it here and continue to drop in.

 

JKBrad,

Thanks for the welcome. I am trying NOT to rush a purchase but I've found a truck (at a dealer about 1/4 mile from where I grew up in CT). I had questions about the engine and posted on my home forum (a firearms forum - but one with a lot of people who seem to be knowledgeable about cars and trucks) and got a mixed bag of responses about the 6 cyl 2.7 L. I then decided that a Ford Truck forum was a better place to get information.

I look forward to more interaction here.

 

I don’t think you can go wrong with the 2.7 EB. I’m very pleased with this engine. It has plenty of power for what I need, and the fuel mileage is good too. I haven’t had any issues at all with the engine.

 

Okay, Beechkid. Ya think maybe you got bashed because the most recent post in your trouble list is almost FIVE years old? Um, the current 3.5L, or the 2.7L aren’t event the same engines as 5 years ago.

 

Coking turbos was an issue in the 1980s, and maybe a little bit in the 1990s before manufacturers added auxiliary cooling. Both the 2.7L EB and the 3.5L EB turbos have auxiliary cooling.

 

I just rolled 55,000 on my 2016 2.7 EcoBoost. I've been towing my boat & my car with this truck, it does an amazing job. My son just rolled 130,000 on my old 2012 3.5 EcoBoost, still runs strong with no issues. My wife's Explorer Sport with the EcoBoost is awesome.