And it’s starting to show…..

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15580519
8/19/15, Team Hard
“This truck has been my least favorite Ford truck of all I’ve owned ('88 Ranger, '93 F150, '99 Ranger, '05 F150, '08 F350, '11 F150) due solely to the overly technical and sensitive nature of the modern equipment which seems to produce reliability issues when you use it... like a truck.”

Yeah so 1,400 miles and my Ecoboost has a blown head gasket - Ford Mustang Forum
6-1-15, BLK50
“Yeah so 1,400 miles and my Ecoboost has a blown head gasket, I started it up at work today and drove out of the parking lot and look back and see this huge cloud of white smoke. Pull over and stop and look and there's what smells like steam coming out of the exhaust.” I took it easy on the car and never hit redline in the first 1,000.

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04-30-15, 04:16 PM bctimber
“Well I was driving it made a big bang/ puff noise then the no oil psi came on and runs like its on 2 or 3 cyl.”

Ford 3.5l Ecoboost Engine Failure

04-04-2013, 03:23 PM EcoBoom
“When I went to the dealer I asked them to bring it in and look see what the issue was and what I had though it was. (turbo) they lifted it up and removed the skid plates to find a hole on either side of the block just above the oil pan rail. to shorten this up. They quoted me $12+ to install a new motor”

Dec 10, 2014 1:28 pm inkryptic
http://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=7&t=10429

...#5 was misfiring. It turn out there is a hole in the piston.

2012 F-150 King Ranch - 2 Blown Motors in 23,500 miles | Tundra Headquarters Blog

Engine number 2 blowing up within 3 weeks. Another new long block will be going in as well as turbos and whatever else I need. They found cylinder 3 and 6 had been flooding/running rich and blew apart. Same problem as before. He says they will be testing the fuel injectors and fuel system all around

2012 Ecoboost F150 Engine Failure

08-22-2013 Blueflame12
I have a 2012 F150 with the Ecoboost engine and it has about 34k miles. As I was driving to work, which was only about 4 miles from the dealer, the tapping noise suddenly got very loud following a BANG. The engine began shaking and loosing power. The next day I get a call saying the engine suffered catastrophic failure and was going to be replaced under the warranty. They said metal chunks were found in the oil and the turbos were damaged too

Blown Ecoboost engine - F150online Forums

cburbee 11-04-2014
“I have a 2011 f150 ecoboost. 130000km on it. I was driving down a gravel road 2 days ago and the engine misfired…….went into limp mode……..Backed off on the throttle then gave it again and seemed fine. Got to a stop sign and heard the dredded ticking/knocking coming from engine. Drove straight to the dealership….told me engine is toast, metal filings all through the bottom end. No idea what caused it. I was quoted 15k for the replacement (canadian). Ouch……..don't buy one of these trucks used off warranty unless you have lots of money in case you need to fix it.

Mtnmanut 11-04-2014

“My POS ecoboost did that at 2000 mile. Ticking knocking and lots of shavings in pan and filter. New motor under warranty. first complaints to dealer was **** poor mileage,ticking and knocking. took blowing it up and ford rep to get them to look at it.”

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b bricker 12/31/14

F150 Ecoboost timing chain

“My 2012 F150 ecoboost just tossed its timing chain. Ford told me no recalls or notices. After I spoke with a master technician, there is a TSB on the timing chains. Cost me 8000.00 to repair (apparently I am not the only one). Ford did nothing for me. No warning or codes - just tore the valve train out. Thank you Ford for the Christmas Gift....

My experience : be VERY careful with the ecoboost V6

Oh yes, this was after when I first bought the truck and they couldn't find out why it was misfiring within the first year - Ended up replacing the wiring harness and all the coil” packs. At my cost...because guess what? An engine wiring harness is not covered by drive train warranty.

Buyer beware ....on this one. And by the way, I restore my own cars and mechanically inclined and maintain my equipment very well. Soooo....

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86fn150 12/31/14
“at our dealership we haven't had one toss the chain but have had maybe 6 or so that ALL the front timing stuff was replaced. All ecoboost engines are junk. Lots of misfires, cooling problems etc….don't buy a new escape -PERIOD (garbage)”

Additionally, issues that are typical of turbo’d gas engines are a continued “Dominent”, and when combined with the higher boost, extended oil changes and smaller (lower capacity) filters, this is not what I would call “A Good Thing”.

A few comments from Ford Master Techs……

Black oil from Ecoboost motor - FORD - FlatRateTech

“You are supposed to go 5K-7.5K on an LOF. That way, Ford can sell you either another vehicle, or an engine, after 100K pops up on the clock. Providing it makes it that far. But in honesty, I think the main problems now are the size of the oil filters today.”

“You could try and get into the habit of letting your vehicle idle for a minute or” 2 prior to shutting it off every time you park it.”

“Turbo engines beat the **** out of oil like motorcycles.”

“Knowing the Ford engines and my experience with Mazda, I wouldn't push the oil change interval past 4k miles regardless of synthetic or not. Especially if you beat on the car.”

“Car manufacturers use the customers as lab rats for testing. I'd be concerned that the oil is taking a beating due to the DI, heat from the turbocharger working overtime, and so on. The turbo won't be the only thing taking a beating either.”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

fullsizeblazin December 4, 2014

“The black "soot" he's seeing on the tail pipes is actually oil blow by from the leaky turbos. That's why all turbo Fords smoke so bad. They think they can survive 7,500 miles between oil changes.”

Karrpilot December 2014

“I would also like to add that the problem of intake valve deposits pretty much went away after the fuel additives were improved. In the early 1980's, it seemed that they were doing a lot of experimentation with the fuels. Along with the injectors. If a fuel was good at keeping the intake valves clean, it might gum up the fuel injectors. And vice versa. Now with the direct injection, there isn't any fuel getting sprayed onto the intake valves. But there sure is PCV vapors, EGR gases, and the fuel vapors from the fuel tank getting pulled into the intake tract.

Combine all of this with customers who buy into those 5-7K oil changes, and we have a ticking time bomb.”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

ok44 January 2015

“It would seem to me that especially aged, high miles oil is going to have a real tendency to coke up when subjected to conditions like that. I've changed a number of turbochargers out (foreign cars) and every single one of them failed due to coked oil; and those were ones without the start/stop feature.”

“Ford is just like all the rest; as long as that POS makes it through the warranty period or even better, gets wiped out in a collision and hauled to the boneyard, they're content......”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

Karrpilot January 2015

“Makes me wonder how Ford is going to get out of paying all those claims against them if the customer's follow their owners guide maintenance intervals. Yep. 100K tune ups, 100K coolant change out, 7.5K LOF's, not servicing the PTU units, transmissions, etc.”

“Me thinks I am going to be having my hands quite full in the coming years...............”

Ecoboost Blues - FORD - FlatRateTech

Roger Blose January 2015

“Just received my Feb. issue of Consumer's Report magazine where on page 59 they have a story about the growing problem with DI engine carbon problems.”

 

Rep-worthy post for all the research, Beechkid. You did a great job finding examples of issues, but put this in perspective. There are over 500,000 F150s sold every year, and over 30% of those are EcoBoost models.

That means that there are over one million EcoBoost F150s on the road, and who knows how many other EcoBoost engines in other applications. That's a lot of engines, and if they were routinely failing, that's all we would hear about. Failures seem quite rare to hear about in every forum I've looked at. Here's an interesting thread I saw an hour ago...this is the second 300,000 mile EcoBoost F150 I've read about.

300,000 miles on my 2011 Eco Boost!!!

 

Tom, I completely agree on what you are saying, as a wrench turner whose family has built well known engines going back to the late 40's, and whose engines turned 211 mph at El Mirage in 1955, we (as a whole), understand what great engineering these engineers have accomplished, yet, I also have a understanding of the potential failure points and the catastrophic results that are more likely to occur with a heavily boosted engine as compared to the normally aspirated engine.......that many do understand the risk associated with engines running boost as high as 12-16 psi....for myself, personally, the engineering has not convinced me, for myself, to purchase a "boosted" engine for daily use.......as you can tell by a couple of the Ford Master Tech's, they have similar concerns with the issues they are seeing on a daily basis.

 

It is common knowledge that all very hard worked engines have the potential to blow catastrophically ( reason not to abuse them ) and a very good percentage of EB's are reliable. Industrial engines routinely blow but most work very hard and reliably for many thousands of hours with those much the same safety control sensors on them as auto engines have.

 

2015 2.7 eco with 3.55.
Best pickup I have ever owned. Straight up race car in sport mode. Avg 23.2 mpg with 25.6 best (over 30 miles) and I do use premium fuel only.

 

Google Search Ford TSB 17-0007.

 

All manufacturers will have an occasional failure. Years ago, I toured the plant where the Cummins 5.9 was being built. Cummins procedure was to run each engine on the dyno prior to shipping it out. They wanted any failure to be in house. They had several engines sitting there that had failed.

 

That one almost worried me. Apparently a bad batch of head castings?

Had to check my window sticker. FEB 2016, so I'm in the clear.

 

With respect, trusting a master tech is about as useful as trusting a salesman. Ford has been pretty heavy into turbos for quite some time now and the only thing Ford is really known to have trouble with is the Fiesta/Focus auto transmissions. I have come to the conclusion that fear of turbos is an outdated one at best. Goodness, look at the pressure Mazda is running 13:1 without a turbo on their motors. I think the engineers have done an awesome job.

 

I understand what you are saying with regards to Master Tech's, etc....the ones that I spoken with are 1) very long tenured mechanics who have worked as machinists as well and 2 of the 3 serve on factory backed racing teams in SoCal....and while Ford like GM, like Dodge has years of experience with turbo's, QA issues and manufacturing costs and mechanic training/trouble shooting issues has consistently led to program terminations. back in the 80's myself and wife worked for GMHE....it was determined by the cognative scientists that the average mechanic had 640,000 pages of trouble shooting directives for the cars......simply impossible for any human being to have "reasonable ability" to understand and then follow this breadth of systematic resolution process.....a very unique system was designed where the mechanic would wear glasses that included a heads-up display, the "computer" would actually conduct the diagnosis and then direct the mechanic of what to do each step including ID (visually) the component...it was deployed at 6 GM dealers nationwide......it worked very, very effectively, reducing repair times and fixing it right the 1st time! GM decided not to employ it because.....$$...it was cheaper to shift knowledge mandates onto the dealers and let the marketplace (customers) decide who was good and who wasn't.

As far as the only known issues being Fiesta/Focus auto transmissions...I'm sorry but that's just not even close.......it wasn't that long ago that Ford made the decision to reduce windshield thickness (trucks) to IIRR 5mm or less....to save weight, money, etc....despite the fact that the windshield are part of the structural integrety of the front of the vehicles.....wind noise became a big issue and spontaneous fractures became not uncommon by customers and insurance companies and then was changed back.....let's not forget the Taurus cylinder head failures & 4.6 intake manifolds (1 million + of those puppies).....and specific to the ecoboost engines, about 10 years of carbon build-up specific failures/maintenance issues (until they figured out that one).......although in the minority, tell that to the 100,000 owners who had to pay out of pocket for those repairs (not covered by warranty or the extended warranty).....$2k+ a pop for that "corrective maintenance" item.

the turbo systems are expensive...just price a reman component out......typically way above the value of a 5 year old car/truck outside of warranty as compared to a NA drivetrain components of a 5 year old vehicle......still expensive, by typically well with the value of the vehicle.

Todays vehicles are even being "abandoned in place as they reach the used card mark because the used vehicle purchaser does not have the $1000+ to repair the key-less start ignition.......and while it's not unusual to see 15-25 year old cars on the road today, they are still there, running, most repairs affordable as compared to today's vehicles which are designed for a usable life of 11 years....... and the systems failures such as we have seen with GM for example, has led to serious injuries/deaths, criminal investigations despite engineers who specified the life of a vehicle.....which people ignore typically out of need and financial restriction.

 

Just traded my 135000 miles-15 year 4X4 old truck in -valued at $7500. Everything on it worked an the only dealer warranty repair was lower ball joints. New battery an front brakes new I had done last summer. The only thing the dealer wanted was a new exhaust pipe. .

 

Those are some old posts mentioned above. When some one creates an ID on a site the does 1 (or 4) bashing post, that's not really credible evidence of an issue. A couple of those guys were found out to be trolls. I also find the story of 1 guy having 4 bad engines suspect, there had to be something going on there we don't know about.
I'm on my 2nd truck with an EcoBoost. My first truck was worked very hard and has over 90,000 trouble free miles. My current truck only has a couple thousand miles so far. The EcoBoost is a fantastic engine. Every person I know that has one, loves it.

 

+1. I think the EcoBoost engines are quite mahvelous.

 

Unless a poster own a truck, or works on them for a living their opinion doesn't mean much. Another F150 forum is full of posers and kids who fearlessly express their "expert" opinions from behind their keyboard.

 

Much of what I see on the internet, I kinda tend to ignore because I feel that there is something more to the story, but, as an example of "real-world" ownership, a friend of mine owns (or I should say owned) one, within the 1st 3 years and under 30k miles, he was on his 3rd set of turbos......he used the truck in his powdercoating business for deliveries (city driving only)......coking killed those turbo's.....before the warranty was up, he sold it off and after talking with me, bought a flatbed with a gas engine.