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Yes, it's called "being informed" when making large purchases where the financial ramifications could cause you serious problems.
Had I known about this forum, I sure wouldn't have bought the Ford 6.0. That's why I send people to this forum who are thinking about buying this truck. If I were buying a Lamborghini I would expect huge bills, but not with a production truck.
The 07 F350 I just bought came with some good service records and the owner took care of it physically so it seemed to be a good deal. One of his bills was for $1400 bucks to remove and clean the turbo. Once I got the truck I ran into some issues that required the turbo removal. The turbo was never removed prior, the garage he took it to simply removed the exhaust pipe and seafoamed the turbine and ring . So now I wonder what else they billed him for and didn't do. It's getting harder to find honest techs these days, I have never billed somebody for something I didn't do.
Had I known about this forum, I sure wouldn't have bought the Ford 6.0. That's why I send people to this forum who are thinking about buying this truck. If I were buying a Lamborghini I would expect huge bills, but not with a production truck.
Actually, if I was dropping that kind of coin on a Lambo that last thing I would expect were huge repair bills.
Google Lamborghini, then google 6.0 Powerstroke.
Which one automatically popualtes the first page with the word "problems"?
By now, if someone goes into a 6.0 purchase without even a cursory google search then I have a hard time feeling sorry for them.
This is not directed at you sig, we all have things with a 6.0 or this forum would not exist.
The bigger point as texas tech pointed out is being informed.
I google or use tripadvisor for something as mundane as a restaurant if we are eating in an unfamiliar area.
I think part of the problem is people that buy these trucks for a grocery getter or church. They ain't meant to lolli gag, they meant to be put to work.
If I were buying a Lamborghini I would expect huge bills, but not with a production truck.
You bought a ten year old vehicle with almost 100,000 miles on it. Then you got taken by a ride by a part-changer who didn't do basic diagnostics. This can happen on any vehicle, regardless of make or model.
So, logically, it's Ford's fault that people take poorly maintained vehicles to disreputable shops a decade after Ford sold them.
I look at it this way,your buying some ones else expense. sometimes the seller or dealer fixes it sometimes they don't. It's a gamble either way. You have to remember it's a old truck that has no warranty. With that said,expect to spend some cash. If you don't want to spend a lot of cash be prepared to wrench on it yourself and hang out here and get good advise and use it
You bought a ten year old vehicle with almost 100,000 miles on it. Then you got taken by a ride by a part-changer who didn't do basic diagnostics. This can happen on any vehicle, regardless of make or model.
So, logically, it's Ford's fault that people take poorly maintained vehicles to disreputable shops a decade after Ford sold them.
No... I bought it when it was 6 years old and it had 70k miles. Unbeknownst to me it was bad when I bought it. I checked the oil and it was black. The dealer told me that was normal for a diesel... Yaw right. I did see the maintenance records from previous Ford dealers. Other than the turbo being replaced, I didn't see any red flags. At around 80k everything failed and I had the first of many huge bills.
Why do you think this forum exists? The Ford 6.0 is not a dependable engine. I have had people blame International and others blame Ford. Face it, Ford built a substandard engine and we are all paying the price or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
The 07 F350 I just bought came with some good service records and the owner took care of it physically so it seemed to be a good deal. One of his bills was for $1400 bucks to remove and clean the turbo. Once I got the truck I ran into some issues that required the turbo removal. The turbo was never removed prior, the garage he took it to simply removed the exhaust pipe and seafoamed the turbine and ring . So now I wonder what else they billed him for and didn't do. It's getting harder to find honest techs these days, I have never billed somebody for something I didn't do.
You're right. It is almost impossible to find a honest diesel mechanic. I also heard this from the various other service shops I have been collection data from. I don't much integrity left...
Granted there are some design flaws with this engine. With that said, there are also fixes for this engine design flaw. The 6.0 can be made to be a great motor,IF you want to pay attention and make the changes. If not, sell it and buy a gasser. It's your money ,your time.............you can lead a horse to water,but you can't make it drink.
This engine is not what your issue is. The decision to approve the injectors and everything else,, is fords fault,,, or the crappy shops fault,, NO. It's your freakn fault!!! I own a shop and I always suggest customers go read online. Go educate yourself,, and whatever you read about,, we can discuss it. I've had people take their trucks away because of their unwillingness to learn about what they drive. Bashing Ford will not make you any friends!!! It's not the engines fault,,, it's the owners that make decisions for the truck that is the issue I always see. Can you say you did not approve the repairs? I was trying to be on your side,, until you started bashing. A post above said Ford built this engine,,, more research is needed. You basically lost $5k. Hopefully they're Ford injectors. I say all the time "money comes n goes,,, but a crappy job will last the lifetime of that truck!!!!" You should've done more research on the shop BEFORE,,, not after. I have had multiple customers say they've stalked us for months before letting us work on their trucks. Videos kinda help that. Lol
You're right. It is almost impossible to find a honest diesel mechanic. I also heard this from the various other service shops I have been collection data from. I don't much integrity left...
I confirmed this with the previous owner over the weekend and to add to it , the repair was done at a Ford dealer in New Brunswick. Maybe I am still too trusting, but I do expect the dealer to be the most honest repair shop. I do all my own work anyway, gas or diesel, that way if it's right I did it, and if it's wrong I know who to blame. g