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I don't know the whole story and it's easy to say what I would have done in hindsight, but I like to think I would have taken my truck to someone else after a couple of weeks.
If it makes you feel any better, I know a guy who spent 10k having his 04 Expy bullet proofed, and 6 months later the head cracked as evidenced by a severe fuel leak. Now they want to charge him another 4k to fix it.
Nope... Doesn't help. Especially after the damage and not being able to use my truck... SO many horror stories. This is far from over. I am mad as hell and I'm not taking it any more. Tomorrow I file an official complaint with the state. Considering I have the law on my side, I should be able to get this crook investigated. Then it's off to court.
I had a similar situation with a 1995 International delivery truck that was running hot out of warranty. Sent it to shop for cooling system check out. Another business sent the identical truck in for a engine rebuild. Yea you guessed it mine got rebuilt. When I got the bill which was itemized, I went thru it and anything that had to do with cooling system I added it up and sent him a check. He called me we argued and I asked him to please take me to court as we couldn't agree on the bill. He wouldn't and I didn't pay any more. We still speak about it and both laugh about it but he says I still owe it ;-) That was 15 years ago.
Sig40: crooked mechanics have existed since we had things we've needed to take in to be repaired. Ford did a lot of warranty work on its dime that was caused by folks pumping more power in, and also by Navistar quality issues.
I'd love to see the factory fix GM came out with for the overheating LLY duramaxes (they didn't) like I owned, so I do understand the butt-hurt and I hate GM, but it isn't the dealers, it is the company that is screwed up and turned around and screwed everyone else. Ford kept putting out parts for our trucks that fixed issues (granted they still had the 6.0 in the E series...)
Pursue your case against the bad mechanic, but don't go saying Ford set up a cottage industry of crooked mechanics on purpose with the 6.0, that is just not correct, and the relationship with International soon ended with lawsuits all around...
Go read the 6.7 forums and see what Ford designed from scratch...
he is going to say low fuel press took out the injectors
and that could be the case
He already told me the problem was the lower fuel pump.
The truck was running so good I doubt it had anything to do with the injectors. The 2 injector shops didn't think the injectors caused the problem.
Besides, I have NO evidence the injectors were even checked or replaced...
Both shops said they supply a test sheet.
I'm just saying he may use the fuel pump thing to justify inject replacement at some point I have to believe he will try to save his own **** and you should be ready for it so if you have evidence that 2 other shops said injectors were good at this time it all went down that's a good thing that should net you around $2500 back alone
I will have to get to my computer but there is a checklist given to Ford techs to be preformed when a vehicle is received DOA to try avoid what you just went threw
He just threw parts at it in an order that was most commonly failed to least commonly failed a fuel pump is uncommon failure that's why it took so much other parts to work his way there
IMO he didn't test anything just threw parts at it
^^^^^ What he said. Don't bash Ford for a sloppy mechanics work, but get your pound of flesh in court to help save somebody else from this guy.
I do blame Ford. They should have stepped up and helped with the problems. I had the truck worked on a couple years ago. The mechanic said he went to a Ford Diesel class and the first thing the instructor said was," Pay close attention. This engine will make you a lot of money." I never forgot it...
Just read all the horror stories on the net and this forum. This is extremely stressful, especially at my age. Wonder how many owners suffered serious medical problems after having to deal with the problems.
Sig40: crooked mechanics have existed since we had things we've needed to take in to be repaired. Ford did a lot of warranty work on its dime that was caused by folks pumping more power in, and also by Navistar quality issues.
I'd love to see the factory fix GM came out with for the overheating LLY duramaxes (they didn't) like I owned, so I do understand the butt-hurt and I hate GM, but it isn't the dealers, it is the company that is screwed up and turned around and screwed everyone else. Ford kept putting out parts for our trucks that fixed issues (granted they still had the 6.0 in the E series...)
Pursue your case against the bad mechanic, but don't go saying Ford set up a cottage industry of crooked mechanics on purpose with the 6.0, that is just not correct, and the relationship with International soon ended with lawsuits all around...
Go read the 6.7 forums and see what Ford designed from scratch...
So far I haven't got any recommendations on aftermarket mechanics. I will say that had I talked to the 2 injector places before I took it in, they would have had good recommendations. I still don't believe it had anything to do with the injectors. It was up to temperature and just stopped. How do you stop a diesel? Turn the fuel off...i.e. the lower fuel pump malfunctioned. I have a suspicion that was fixed first and the rest was just to make a bunch of money
The problem is; who is the flavor of the month. Shops get sold all the time and once a good shop doesn't necessarily mean a good shop next month.
Nope... Doesn't help. Especially after the damage and not being able to use my truck... SO many horror stories. This is far from over. I am mad as hell and I'm not taking it any more. Tomorrow I file an official complaint with the state. Considering I have the law on my side, I should be able to get this crook investigated. Then it's off to court.
I talked to a Ford Mechanic and they just got back an ambulance they had did all the mods to several months and it came back with a cracked head.
He blamed international...
I don't know the whole story and it's easy to say what I would have done in hindsight, but I like to think I would have taken my truck to someone else after a couple of weeks.
If it makes you feel any better, I know a guy who spent 10k having his 04 Expy bullet proofed, and 6 months later the head cracked as evidenced by a severe fuel leak. Now they want to charge him another 4k to fix it.
I talked to a Ford Mechanic and they just got back an ambulance they had did all the mods to several months and it came back with a cracked head.
He blamed international...
I still don't believe it had anything to do with the injectors. It was up to temperature and just stopped. How do you stop a diesel?
Mine was up to temp and just died at a stop light two weeks after I bought it, and also started when it cooled off. Turned out to be a plugged oil cooler causing the oil to get so hot it lost all viscosity and couldn't maintain the minimum 500psi. I was able to find a good, honest mechanic because of that fiasco. If you were in Dallas/Fort Worth I would highly recommend him.
Have you made any headway with the State Attorney's office?
Figured out why the transmission leak... Before someone says why didn't you look when you got it back? Well, I was so discussed and didn't have the money to fix it if I found out what was wrong, I just parked it at my house and tried not to think about it...
My brother finally came over and crawled under it and found the missing filler plug... Does anyone happen to know the size? Do I HAVE to get it from Ford?
