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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Coil question

Looking for a new coil. I saw the MSD coil and am wondering if there's any improvement running it but still having the stock ignition module. Is there a performance ignition module available? Or should I just use the stock cheapo coil? Trucks a 93 f350 460 5 speed.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ciamcoop
Looking for a new coil. I saw the MSD coil and am wondering if there's any improvement running it but still having the stock ignition module. Is there a performance ignition module available? Or should I just use the stock cheapo coil? Trucks a 93 f350 460 5 speed.
Don't waste your money on MSD coil!

I've had 2 fail at 2 different times on 2 different truck's.

My 22 year old coil does wonders! Just buy another Motorcraft coil if your really need one.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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I bought one for my 5.0 last year because I did the six liter tuneup. So far so good.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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I had my msd coil on for a little while now, the only issue i had was the coil wire didn't clip on real good causing a miss, pinched the connector down a hair and no issues sense.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ciamcoop
Looking for a new coil. I saw the MSD coil and am wondering if there's any improvement running it but still having the stock ignition module. Is there a performance ignition module available? Or should I just use the stock cheapo coil? Trucks a 93 f350 460 5 speed.
The Ignition Module is just a off and on switch controlled by the computer. So no there is no way to get more out it.

A stock automotive ignition coil can generate an output voltage on the order of 30,000 volts. This is a sufficient voltage to produce arcs which jump an air gap of an inch or more.

So the stock coil has more than enough voltage to jump the gap in your spark plugs. So no after market coil can not give any more performance unless you have a non stock very high compression engine.

Some say you can improve some by advancing the timing two degrees but you then run the risk of spark knock.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Yeah I tried advancing the timing a hair awhile back. It was fine around town and on cooler days, but out on the highway if I got into it it'd ping. Didn't really gain anything noticeably with it advanced anyway. The exhaust has just a little bit of a rich odor to it when idling, was hoping to get it cleaned up. All emission system working, and it's in tip top shape with low miles. Sometimes that's just the way it is.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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If you're gonna jack up the timing, you also need to run a cooler thermostat so you stave of the pinging.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah I run a 180 in the summer and 195 in the winter. If I remember to swap it.
 
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The plugs only draw what they need. So a "40,000 volt" coil is BS, in a way. Sure, it's capable of providing 40k volts, but this won't happen. Typically about 10k or so to fire plugs. 20k volt coil is used for a reserve voltage. Higher compression, or old plugs, worn out wires, etc increase the voltage needed to fire. I'd be concerned with the quality moreso than the voltage rating. Lots of cheap **** being produced these days. Normally, with ignition parts, there really is a difference compared to aftermarket. Go with OEM Motorcraft for things like caps, wires, rotors, coils etc. At least this was true in the past.
 
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