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How many miles are on your truck Bob? The '13? Although I wonder if mileage is a factor
The 2013 has almost 57,800 on it. Before we moved to North Carolina 4 years ago, I lived in Missouri until I was almost 50, and really haven't had any brake issues. I've always gotten 75k or so out of a good set of brake pads, and machining the rotors. The last truck I had in Missouri was an 01 F150 4x2 Extended Cab.
Rebel, it could just be a defective caliper on your truck. Or rust build up from a lack of use. I have 84k miles on Betty, and not a single issue with the calipers. And it's on it's third set of pads in the front. And second set of rotors. Plus I should add that I've never had an issue with warped rotors on the ole girl either. Russ thanks for the insight on the daylight in your area. I've always been intrigued by that, but haven't yet had an opportunity to experience it for myself yet. But maybe someday. Since a trip to Alaska is on my bucket list. Among many other places.
I think that would really throw off a persons inner clock wouldn't it? Seems strange to me but that's because I'm not used to it.
Anyway the truck is getting new front brakes now. I had ordered Powerstop pads and rotors for it a few months ago thinking I would do it myself when I had time. But when the brakes started making some unhealthy noises a few days ago coming home from work I knew they weren't going to wait. So my mechanic is doing it now. I don't have time right now and it's too cold. So I'll pay someone else to do it in their heated garage
I'm born and raised so my internal clock is set to the daylight cycle. When I go on vacation it always throws me off that it either gets dark or is light later depending on the season.
I've been running the powerstop rotors for over a year now and love them! Stock rotors were warped at 30k. Have not noticed any issues with the calipers yet now at 47k.
I know you guys have seen this one before, but this was in June almost 11:30pm and it looks like afternoon daylight wise.
Not to question you Alex, but I doubt it's rust from a lack of use. I'm in the doggone thing every single day! It doesn't go far at any one time, but it goes somewhere every day. I've been pretty busy the past few months. It's gotta be a faulty caliper.
However my mechanic was telling me he's seen several newer F-150's with brake calipers failing prematurely. I've also seen it several times on these forums. There is definitely a pattern here.
Rebel, I meant no offense. Nor was I meaning that you don't drive your truck daily. I was meaning the PO of the truck. However with that said, it doesn't take much for rust to set in on the piston inside the caliper. Keep in mind that brake fluid naturally attracts moisture from the air. And it doesn't take long for that to happen. Also you should have the brake fluid flushed from the system at least once a year. That's because the fluid also becomes acidic over time and the heat cycles generated from simply driving the truck can damage various parts of the brake system. And with as complex as these systems are on todays vehicles, the more parts there are to fail from a lack of maintenance. And I'm not saying that you don't maintain your truck. Cause I know you do. I'm just trying to help explain different scenarios that could cause your caliper to fail.
Rebel, I meant no offense. Nor was I meaning that you don't drive your truck daily. I was meaning the PO of the truck. However with that said, it doesn't take much for rust to set in on the piston inside the caliper. Keep in mind that brake fluid naturally attracts moisture from the air. And it doesn't take long for that to happen. Also you should have the brake fluid flushed from the system at least once a year. That's because the fluid also becomes acidic over time and the heat cycles generated from simply driving the truck can damage various parts of the brake system. And with as complex as these systems are on todays vehicles, the more parts there are to fail from a lack of maintenance. And I'm not saying that you don't maintain your truck. Cause I know you do. I'm just trying to help explain different scenarios that could cause your caliper to fail.
I'm sorry Alex. Perhaps I should have typed that a different way. After reading it again, it did not come out the way I meant it. Please forgive me. No offense was taken, and I hope you did not take any offense either.
With that said, thank you for the further explanation of the way brake fluid can become acidic and break down the various components in the system over time. I did not know that before. I knew that brake fluid can attract moisture very quickly, and therefore when I check or add brake fluid to any vehicle; I do so quickly but carefully.
Anyway the truck is back at the shop now overnight getting both calipers replaced, as well as pads and rotors. Apparently the LF was stuck on, and the RF caliper was slow. That explains both the scraping noise and the slow response from the brakes.
As I get to know the truck better, and as I consider the low mileage; I'm starting to get an idea how of the PO used the truck. It was probably a part-time work truck that didn't get used much. But when he did use it, he worked it hard. Especially considering he allegedly traded this in for an F-250. That's according to the salesman who sold it to me. All of that takes its toll on a truck eventually, just as much as high mileage does. These are the risks we take when buying a used vehicle, especially a used truck; which is a work vehicle by its very design and nature.
No apologize necessary Rebel. I wasn't offended at all. I just wanted to take a minute to further and better explain what I was trying to say in the first place. However I was a little pressed for time in that post and was trying to give a condensed version. Hopefully once you get the truck back you won't have any more issues with the brakes. Just be sure and keep getting the fluid flushed at least once a year. That'll certainly help ensure that you won't have any more premature issues. Also FWIW they do make test strips that'll let you know how acidic the brake fluid has gotten before you flush the old stuff out. They look and work very much like test strips for swimming pools.
Alex, to be honest I had never heard that brake fluid should be flushed out annually. I've heard it should be done every 100,000k, but I don't usually do it. In fact, to be more honest; I usually don't do it at all unless it's being done as a part of major brake service, such as new calipers where they need to bleed the lines anyway. Is that because the new vehicles are more sensitive to changes in the acidity of brake fluid? I know the shop mechanic is suggesting it be done on my wife's car. I told her not to worry about it, there's more pressing needs to be done on the car first. And we are trying not to blow our entire life savings on vehicle maintenance
I've always been cheap anyway so I'm not the best example
I used to work for at a Firestone shop years ago back in Missouri. And they really would push the extras, like flushing the transmission, throttle body/injector cleaning,power steering, and brake fluid flush.
And myself anytime that I did a brake caliper or wheel cylinder, was when that system would get a good flush.
I had a flush done on my old Expedition just for kicks and did noticed a difference in pedal feel. The stuff that came out (factory '98 stuff) with 100k on it was green.
Well I got the truck back today after dropping over $700 just in front brakes. The shop manager did tell me they completely flushed out the brake fluid and poured in all new fluid. They didn't charge me for that either so that's awesome! When I went to pick it up I gave him two cases of soda as my way of saying thanks for everything they do to take care of our vehicles. I can send my wife there and know that he's not going to rip her off or sell her service that she doesn't need. An honest mechanic is hard to find these days, and thats why we keep going back.
Thanks for asking Green.
I did have to have new brakes put on the front back in December, right after Christmas. So I had Powerstop rotors and pads installed. Calipers were bad too so they got replaced with OEM grade. Other than that the Rebel's been busy steady rackin' up the miles. I'm over 36k now and my Beast is runnin' like a charm! As far as any plans this summer, I've got a few in mind but I'm trying to save $$ too.
Hey y'all it's been awhile since I've posted here, or even done anything with the truck other than drive the wheels off it. But spring is here and my schedule finally loosened up to where I've actually got some free time on my hands!
So with that said I've got a couple of ideas cooking up in my head. I was looking through my tool chest and found an old "F-150" fender emblem from an 80's era truck. I think I'm gonna clean it up with a fresh coat of silver paint and attach it to the dash of the Beast. I've attached some pictures of what I'm talking about. Let me know what yinz think. I would attach it to the dash centered above the glove box.
It sounds like an interesting idea, Rebel! I think it would look better if it were mounted on the side of that flat area, rather than dead-center.
Was that originally chrome? If so, you might want to try polishing it with a clean rag and Noxon or Brasso; you wouldn't believe how new the chrome will look afterwards!
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