If you had filled out your info and showed what state you reside in, I would have recommended this 80 posts ago.

 

So I'm pretty sure that this is a late 04....can anyone tell me if this is the only year that I can get parts from?

 

I take it that there is no rebuilding option for this hpop.

 

I've never heard that the lpop of any 6.0 is different than any other. I don't know for a fact, but I'm very confident they are all the same.

I'm also confident that when deformed metal is involved, rebuilding is not an option.

But, to be sure, you reinstalled the same components the needle bearing went through? If so, no wonder you can't get any lpo. Even if you did get some, is be afraid to run it that way.

 

I installed new inner and outer gear, new cover, new seal. Should I have to dump oil in the filter housing to prime this? If so how much?

 

There is no need to prime it, I just changed my front cover Friday and all I did was prelube the front cover and both gears. Truck started and oil pressure came up as normal.

 

A couple of confusing posts in this thread. If the oil level in the pan is where it should be, a working LOW pressure pump should self prime and begin pumping with minimal cranking. If it has a leak on the pick-up tube or cover, above the oil level in the pan (on the suction side of the pump) it won't be able to prime and pump much, if any, oil. If clearances are too loose in the pump, either between the gears or between the sides of the gears and the housing, it won't work either. It sounds to me like with new gears and cover you have got that covered. There are a couple of part numbers for the front cover related to different water pump sizes and hose outlet angle but I can only find one part number for the gears ( 3C3Z 6608 BA / ). The regulator bypasses oil when the pressure comes up, I've never dealt with a stuck one so I don't know for sure if it's capable of returning ALL the oil back to the pan if the plunger is in the wrong position. Maybe...

There are three HPOP's.
03-early 04 is an aluminum swashplate style pump. (3C3Z 9A543 AARM / 5010106R93 Ford/International numbers)

Mid/late 2004 pump looks exactly the same but has a different number. ( 4C3Z 9A543 AARM ) these two may interchange. They do have a different part number for the IPR for each pump also.

2005- and up pumps are a V4 piston pump ( 5C4Z 9A543 C / 5010119R92 ) made of cast iorn (aluminum cover) and not interchangeable with the earlier pumps without changing some of the other plumbing. Replacing the branch tube requires pulling the engine or dropping the transmission.

None of these pumps are rebuild able by us mechanic types. There would be some machine work and un available parts hurdles for us. Here is a link to a thread that has some insight to the early style pumps. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...and-a-fix.html

The ScanGuage can't read low side oil pressure.

It is possible to pre fill the HPOP reservoir by pouring a quart of oil down the hole in the center of the oil filter housing. Just remove the filter and the standpipe. There are 3 Torx screws at the base of the standpipe, only one needs to be removed, the pipe will twist and pull up after removing the screw on the centerline of the housing. This could help the HPO system but will have no effect on the low side.

The finish on the cam lobe is very precise. After seeing the condition of the lifter, the finish on the cam is certainly destroyed. I understand you want to give it a shot, but I wouldn't spend a lot of money unless you intend to rebuild it. Some of the parts could survive. The roller on the new lifter will soon begin to "skid" on the ruff spot on the cam lobe and I'm afraid you'll be back to your starting point shockingly soon.

Your 6.0 knowledge is about to increase a lot good luck with it!

 

hows this battle going

 

I know right. I'm sure it sucks for the OP but I'm on the edge of my seat. I'm rooting for you man.

 

Just waiting on parts. I'm going to replace the hpop and check the scan gauge for pressure as I was only getting 10 max reading while cranking. My concern here is that if I'm not getting any oil from the lpop then will this affect my hpop reading.

 

10 psi is really zero. In other words, the equation doesn't read that low because there is like enough noise In the signal to give 10 psi. If your getting no oil from the lpop (oil filter won't fill), a new hoop won't change anything. I dont remember your model, but the 06, 07 and 08 pumps almost never go bad. The STC may need replacing, but not the pump. That's good money you could put on a new lpop.

Are you sure it's not draining out of the oil filter housing?

 

It's an '04.

 

We'll a HPO problem can make LPO problems if the HPO System just let's it free flow out it won't build LPO or HPO For that matter
The only catch is he had to have couple things kill at once looks like it shot schrapnel thru so it possible

The needle bearing looks like it broke into bits maybe it made it thru oil cooler Plus the oil filter onto the HPOP idk his sump screen was shot so

Guess will see

Iv seen it here before just not with LPO CATASROPIC fail at the same time

 

Benny, I see your point. If oil free flows through the hpop, I guess it wouldn't fill the filter housing. I was thinking there's no way metal makes it through the oil filter. If it can't get through the filter, it can't get to the hpop. Wellllll, if the oil filter bypass valve opens, only then can it get to the hpop. But hey, stranger things have happened I guess.

 

Guys,, this truck has a scored cam,,, PERIOD!!! A new lifter was put on a bad cam. This truck is not going to be reliably used until the cam is replaced.

Replacing a hpop on this truck will do nothing but add another voice that curses the 6.0. Tossing parts and not fixing the underlaying issue is picture book of what I hear on a regular basis at the shop. Yank the engine back out,, and fix it right.