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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Fuel issue need help.

Hi. I have a 92 f250 7.3idi with a banks turbo. The truck fires up great and runs great. After the truck is warm i let it sit for a bit go to fire it up and it just cranks. So i crack my one injector and im not getting fuel. I changed the fuel filter. And my next guess is either the pump is starting to go or air is getting into my fuel lines. Is there anything else i should check?

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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Pour cool not COLD water over the injection pump when this happens-if it starts the injection pump needs rebuilt. What most likely is happening is the pump is worn then the clearances in the pump get larger and it quits pumping fuel. When you pour the cool water on the pump the housing shrinks and lets the head build pressure again.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Forddiesel17
Pour cool not COLD water over the injection pump when this happens-if it starts the injection pump needs rebuilt. What most likely is happening is the pump is worn then the clearances in the pump get larger and it quits pumping fuel. When you pour the cool water on the pump the housing shrinks and lets the head build pressure again.
If this is the issue your better off buying a rebuilt pump and using yours as a core. I was told by the local injection shop that it's a main piece wearing out that causes this issue and it's around 150 just for that piece. Plus 500 for the rebuild.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 12:32 AM
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I should also mention that once i crack my injector. I crank it till i have fuel coming out. Then it runs good and it starts fine for awhile.

And thanks for the advice
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Sounds like air. Check to see if the hoses and fittings on the fuel lines and above the injectors are damp. If they are damp, air is most probably entering the system.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Try the pour cold water trick. Let us know what happens.

Anything with air intrusion would be a lot worse when cold, and very little to no problem when hot due to how short a period of time the engine has been sitting.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Try the pour cold water trick. Let us know what happens.

Anything with air intrusion would be a lot worse when cold, and very little to no problem when hot due to how short a period of time the engine has been sitting.
Has the IP manufacturer not taken into account the expansion rate of the plungers and cylinders? The water trick may work, but the OP said that once it cranked to the point that fuel was at the injectors, it started with no problems; "for a while". I am, of course, assuming that the OP did not crank the engine into the night where the IP temperature was lowered to the point just above freezing.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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Has the IP manufacturer not taken into account the expansion rate of the plungers and cylinders?
It seems to be the tolerance between the rotor and head on the output side. If the tolerance is too high, when the IP gets hot that gap widens to the point that fuel leaks around the port and not out through the injector.
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The water trick may work, but the OP said that once it cranked to the point that fuel was at the injectors, it started with no problems; "for a while". I am, of course, assuming that the OP did not crank the engine into the night where the IP temperature was lowered to the point just above freezing.
The difference between an IP that starts and one that won't may be just a few degrees. That's why it's called "heat soak" - shut the engine off hot and it may fire back up just fine, even though the IP is at 100+F. Let it sit and the cool(er) diesel inside warm up, and it won't fire. The differences here are miniscule, and also greatly affected by cranking speed.

By the same token, injector pop pressure affects it majorly. I once upped my pop-pressure to like 2200PSI to test it, and the engine ran fine... until I turned it off and let it sit for a half-hour in the middle of August. Wouldn't fire, finally cooled the IP enough to get it started. Dropped the pop pressure to 1800, no more issue under the same conditions.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 10:54 PM
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Hi. Thanks everyone for the feed back, it hasnt done it yet so i cant try anything. As soon as it does ill post what happens.
 
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OK, Great! Thanks for the info.
 

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Originally Posted by Dieselamour
OK, Great! Thanks for the info.
Hi, so the truck did it yesterday, i poured cool water on the IP, and it didnt change anything. Its getting a bit better when i cranks but wont start i just put the throttle to the floor and it fires within 3 cranks
 
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