I'm replacing my brakes with the Powerslot Cryo rotors and want to get the Hawk pads.

I see 2 different part numbers, and it looks like one is .700 and the other .685 thickness.

Which is the correct part? I'm thinking thicker is better... but something tells me it's not that simple.

Thanks.

 

wow I just went to check their website an it sucks. not sure what happened to those guys but I can't make sense of it. Id wait until monday and call them.

 

What website are you using? What year is your Excursion?

This is what I came up with for my 1999 F250 SD with 13" rotors.

Manufacturer Part #: HB302Y.700

Hawk LTS Truck/SUV Pads

 

I have a 2001 7.3 4x4.

8 options come up on their site, I figured a bunch on here have used them. I'll keep searching and will post results if someone doesn't beat me to it.

 

Try tirerack.com I only get one option on the LTS pad green box.

HB302Y.700

 

Thanks Bentley... Those are the thicker anyways so sounds like the winner.

 

Thicker by about 2 human hairs, There has to be more to it then that. Unfortunately their website is not very informative

 

After some digging, here's the difference... And a link to more reading on the brakes.

"
During the early years of the '99-'04 brake series Akebono provided a stainless steel thermal shield that locked onto the back of the brake pads on top of the normal noise insulator. The intent was to protect the caliper boots from high temps, one of two methodologies used to disrupt thermal transmission. After a few years they changed the front pad design so that the OE pad's insulators had what in my group we referred to as Mickey Mouse ears, extensions of the noise insulator that rose above the top of the pads to protect the caliper boots eliminating the need for the clip-ons. Ford and Akebono went overboard on the initial design of the calipers to prevent brake fluid boil, so with the extensions there was no need for the extra metal attachment. Since I've never worked for Hawk (although interestingly for me there were a spin-off of my old company) I can only surmise they are offering the two thickness based if you are using the stainless clip-on of the '99-03 series of vehicles which would require the OE thickness of the pads, or the later year vehicles which could have a little more material. In the aftermarket I've not seen the replacement pads for any of the years come with the "MM" ears to protect the boots, so for any of the trucks I personally have worked on that still had the stainless steel barrier, I've still used them. The latter years you can't do anything about. I've worked on one vehicle where I had a problem with the Hawk pads and trying to use the barriers, so the person supplying the pads most likely acquired the thicker pads. I just had them come back in 25k miles so I could reinstall the barriers once the pads had worn. Considering the wear life of pads on this vehicle, the difference in thickness is not that extensive. The Motorcraft pads that Rock_Doc noted are also very good pads manufactured by the company I used to work for, and if this was a fleet operation they would be were I would go. They also do very well for the general public, but many Excursion owners like the higher friction level of the Hawk LTS pads. The Motorcraft rotors are a very good aftermarket replacement and I often recommend them if you need rotors. There is no need for cryo treated, slotted or drilled rotors when you are using the Hawk or Motorcraft pads mentioned as the improvement in braking and future pulsation from rotor issues are fixed by the change in friction material over the OE production line material, however many declare the benefits of the rotors not realizing it was the brake pad change that was the benefit." (Brakes - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com)

This may not be a "legal" link to post so please let me know and I'll remove it if needed.

 

Now that makes sense.
Given the problems people have with the slide pins I like the idea of a thermal barrier to help keep the boot nice and flexible so it keeps gunk out.

 

Is there a picture of the ears and clips used? Good find, thanks for sharing.

 

Not from the excursion but a sample I grabbed off the internet.

 

Good to see Akebono recommended here. I like their pads and have used them on almost everything I've owned/driven.

 

Akebono are great brake parts, use them on the BMW. I'm assuming they make most/ a lot of OEM parts, it seems like you can always trace pads and rotors back to them.