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Dec 29, 2015 | 02:58 PM

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Thanks Troverman and SkiSmuggs, So its ok to use PM-22-A and the AR6000 together? Since we dont run the truck everyday I want to make sure there is some fuel treatment in there, also the cetane booster wont hurt. The pumps here say minimum 40 but I guess you really dont know what is in there.
Still looking at the Insight, I think that will be the next purchase.

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Archoil's AR6200 is not the same as PM22A. PM22A, Opti-Lube Summer Plus, Standyne and others of that class of diesel additives are cetane boosters. Cetane is the diesel equivolent of octane in gas. The US standard is 40 cetane and the European standard where they use a lot more of it is 51 cetane. CA requires 50 and some of Texas requires 50 as well. Ford says a minimum of 40 with 45 in the winter. Higher cetane ignites sooner for a cleaner burn, less soot and more power. Some of them improve lubricity as well for longer fuel pump and injector life. Opti-Lube was the top performer in the 2007 study that seems to be the only study to date.
Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
AR6200 is a "combustion catalyst" that can be used in both gas and diesel. My experience is better fuel mileage in my diesel and better running of older gas engines.
AR6000 Fuel Treatments | Archoil

Dec 29, 2015 | 03:54 PM

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Archoil says there is no problem running AR6200 with other fuel additive, but says there is no need. I got a bump in fuel mileage when I first started using AR6200, but it dropped when I quit adding Opti-Lube. Opti-Lube Summer Plus says to use 1-2 oz per tank, so I just use 1 oz with the AR6200. I also use AR6200 in all fuel storage cans because it is a stabilizer. My lawn tractor, snow blower, chainsaw, weed whacker and generator all run better for it.
So if PM22 has a range of amount, just use the minimum. They don't do quite the same as AR6200 is not a cetane booster, and although Archoil says it is a lubricant, I don't know how much compared to cetane boosters. What I do know is that my truck runs best using both.

Dec 29, 2015 | 04:04 PM

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Just ordered the PM22, will order some AR6200 also and do some test on them and let you know how it turns out. Thanks again!

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Dec 31, 2015 | 01:12 PM

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So today I drove 150 miles and of course 2 miles from the house the "Cleaning Exh Filter" message came on. When I got to the driveway I left it running and it smelled like I had been driving with the EMG brake on. I am guessing its normal since it was cleaning the filter? I could see the fumes coming out of the exhaust and it did smell funny. I let it run for another 10-15 minutes before shutting it off. How are you supposed to know its done (I dont have an Insight)
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Jan 4, 2016 | 12:39 PM

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Therefore, you look for telltale signs. One thing I have noticed is that the turbo boost is a little higher and more responsive than normal. You will notice more boost pressure on even slight hills than is normal. I can detect a slight tonal change from the engine, but it is slight. Mostly, the economy gauge is the best tool...but sometimes, even that is not totally conclusive.

Thank you for confirming I'm not totally crazy!

I thought I noticed boost and tone changes too, but also thought I might be a little overly obsessive about changes in sounds and feelings when driving/towing.

Coming from a tuned and not studded 6.0L I learned to watch, listen, feel, smell things that were going on... to avoid a blowup! LOL!

Jan 4, 2016 | 06:27 PM

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If you can get the dealer or some local shop that can access the ECM/PCM, you can get them to activate the Exhaust Filter screen. Some have called it the "Ghost Screen". It is NOT a one to one correlation nor is it real time data being displayed. It is more of a dampened display that moves in 5% increments. It is a cheap method of knowing the status of the exhaust filter and if you observe it, you can determine if it is in regen, or not or if it is about to start a regen.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ay-page-2.html

Jan 6, 2016 | 12:21 AM

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This current '16 regents WAY less than any of the other trucks since '11, averaging once every 500 miles. My cousin works for me, he has a '16 as well, sees better mpg and way less regen also. Very pleased.

Jan 6, 2016 | 06:46 AM

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I think drive cycle has an awful lot to do with the regen cycle more that anything else at this point.

Even my 08 (1st generation with DPF) would regen unloaded at 500 miles.

My '13 is around that as well unloaded and heavy towing yields a regen every couple thousand miles.