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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Will a 351 engine swap with a 460 without swapping the bell housing or motor mounts??
 
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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No the Mounts aren't the same, The Bell housings will if it's a 351m, If it's a 351W they will not interchange
 
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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one word of advice make sure the 460 is externaly balanced i ran into that problem when i replaced my old 460 with a rebuilt one the engine builder i used told me that ford had an external and a internal, come to find out ford never made an internal balanced 460 for the trucks in fact it wasnt tell 1980 the 460 truck moters came with a standerd tranny and they were all externaly balanced anything earler came stock with an automatic....the 390 bell housing will work also
 
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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There is not much of a way to say this without it sounding harsh. In no way do I mean to be so. But, whoever gave you your info, led you astray.

There are plenty of 78 and back internally balanced, truck 460's out there in F series trucks and E series vans.

As well as 4 speed, 460 powered trucks before 1980.

The 460's became externally balanced in 79 and continued until they quit making them. It was somewhere around this time frame the 460 became strictly a truck motor. They dissapeared in the trucks after 79 and came back in 83. Though it was my understanding they were still offered at this time in the big E series vans.

And the 390 bellhousing will not bolt to a 460. I have heard people say a 390 manual transmission flywheel will fit on a 460 but I can't verify this fact.

Once again, I don't mean to dog you, just giving the facts to the best of my knowledge.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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superdave your absolutely right and the 390 flywheel will fit the 460 as long as you use an internally balanced 460. I would imagine all the fe flywheels will work except for the 428 (and I think one other but don't know) cause the 428 is externally balanced.

351m-400 flywheels will interchange with a 460 I believe

and yes the e series vans did have 460 in the later models I know this one for sure because I get a 94 e350 in my shop every once in awhile that has a 460 in it (been trying to talk this guy into getting a new van and selling this one to me for awhile now I think that's why he keeps it around :P)

but anyways just trying to help if I'm wrong on any of this then someone please let me know
 
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Pre-'79 460s were internally balanced, and all 351M/400s were externally balanced.

Nonetheless, 351M/400 flywheels will not interchange with 460 flywheels, regardless of the 460's balance.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 01:34 AM
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boy i tell you no one around here in denver can give you a stright answer. i called all around denver and everone was sayin that ford never had a manual trans internaly balanced 460 what a headache i went through trying to find a fly wheel that was zero balanced. i wound up getting mine mechined .well i guess i learned. thanks for settin me stright Superdave
 
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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This is the place to come if you want to know the correct information about a Ford!

Everybody here is glad to help.

Take care,
 
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thanks Superdave. i like this forume its very helpful..........................hay didnt ypu have a tv show on fox....just kiddin
 
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