December BS Thread
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From: Isanti, MN
Good morning everyone!
Smoke alarm system went NUTS at 0330 waking up the entire house. Couldn't tell which one was doing it, but they were all wired together and going off at once. Ended up taking all of them down for the evening so we could get back to sleep. My ears were ringing for an hour after that, it was rather uncalled for.
We figured out yesterday that my wife's Odyssey doesn't produce as much heat as we would like. My F150 will bake your fingers off if given the chance, but the Ody with its 170 degree thermostat feels lukewarm in comparison when it gets cold out.
Asked a warmer thermostat on an Odyssey forum last night and was told that I'm trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Smoke alarm system went NUTS at 0330 waking up the entire house. Couldn't tell which one was doing it, but they were all wired together and going off at once. Ended up taking all of them down for the evening so we could get back to sleep. My ears were ringing for an hour after that, it was rather uncalled for.
We figured out yesterday that my wife's Odyssey doesn't produce as much heat as we would like. My F150 will bake your fingers off if given the chance, but the Ody with its 170 degree thermostat feels lukewarm in comparison when it gets cold out.
Asked a warmer thermostat on an Odyssey forum last night and was told that I'm trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
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From: H-town, MN
Good morning fellas!
Wife's car is fixed now to locate a fender for the Buick. Hutch salvage had one but someone backed into it with the loader. I think I may have located one closer but waiting on a call back.
Enjoy the sun while it lasts!
Wife's car is fixed now to locate a fender for the Buick. Hutch salvage had one but someone backed into it with the loader. I think I may have located one closer but waiting on a call back.
Enjoy the sun while it lasts!
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From: Hampstead, NC
Gotcha. I looked at my suppliers and none list warmer than 172. Fits 93-12 V6 engines though. Those engines are prone to head gaskets failure on one slight overheat, so I don't know that you'd want to go warmer. At 170 it should still put out plenty warm heat though. Perhaps the thermostat is just sticking?
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From: DFW, TX-GoldCanyon, AZ
Good morning guys....
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
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From: Isanti, MN
Gotcha. I looked at my suppliers and none list warmer than 172. Fits 93-12 V6 engines though. Those engines are prone to head gaskets failure on one slight overheat, so I don't know that you'd want to go warmer. At 170 it should still put out plenty warm heat though. Perhaps the thermostat is just sticking?
I'll probably leave it the way it is.
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From: Hampstead, NC
Good morning guys....
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
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From: Isanti, MN
Good morning guys....
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
Dave / Tom - that really is an "Oddity".... I have not heard of an OEM Thermstat cooler than 192 degrees in the last 30 years....
If the stat is stuck open, that would do it... Maybe put some cardboard in front of the radiator as a short term fix but watch the temp...
Some all aluminum engines run really warm too. The Pentastar V6 in a Grand Caravan has a 203-degree thermostat. As does the 5.0L Coyote engine. Hrmmm....maybe time for an engine swap?
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From: DFW, TX-GoldCanyon, AZ
Getting all aluminum (head and block) to seal up is generally not a problem. Iron heads on an aluminum block is a bit more of a problem than sealing an aluminum head to an iron block. Rates of expansion are so different between iron and aluminum I am always amazed to think about the engineering that went into the marriages of the two.
I think I need another cup of Joe....
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From: Isanti, MN
That has to really suck for emissions and fuel economy... Running cooler thermostats will take us back to the sludge buckets we drove in the 50-70's...
Getting all aluminum (head and block) to seal up is generally not a problem. Iron heads on an aluminum block is a bit more of a problem than sealing an aluminum head to an iron block. Rates of expansion are so different between iron and aluminum I am always amazed to think about the engineering that went into the marriages of the two.
Getting all aluminum (head and block) to seal up is generally not a problem. Iron heads on an aluminum block is a bit more of a problem than sealing an aluminum head to an iron block. Rates of expansion are so different between iron and aluminum I am always amazed to think about the engineering that went into the marriages of the two.
The van in question has an aluminum block and heads, so I wouldn't think this would be much of an issue. Found a thread about people installing a 180-degree stat in the previous generation and everyone seems to be happy with the result. The cooling fan doesn't come on until 208 degrees, so I would think a 180-degree stat would still keep things in an appropriate range.
Warmer thermostat?