Axles Swap
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Axles Swap
Hi Guys,
I bought a 00 Ex about 2 months ago and it got totaled.
I have the wreaked vehicle and I'm pulling parts off it for another 00 Ex I bought.
My next major project will be to swap the axles out, the one that's totaled has 4.30's in it and the second one I bought has 3.73's. So I want the 4.30's.
My big question is: do I use the drive shafts from the donor vehicle or use the ones from the vehicle I'm building up?
My second question: the exhaust manifolds have already had the factory studs replaced and it needs to be done again. 194000 miles. I know for sure one of the holes is stripped.
Would using larger bolts be advised or time-serts / helicoils be the best route?
Thanks for all the info on the site, this is truly a definitive resource for the Excursion owner.
Thanks
Mark
I bought a 00 Ex about 2 months ago and it got totaled.
I have the wreaked vehicle and I'm pulling parts off it for another 00 Ex I bought.
My next major project will be to swap the axles out, the one that's totaled has 4.30's in it and the second one I bought has 3.73's. So I want the 4.30's.
My big question is: do I use the drive shafts from the donor vehicle or use the ones from the vehicle I'm building up?
My second question: the exhaust manifolds have already had the factory studs replaced and it needs to be done again. 194000 miles. I know for sure one of the holes is stripped.
Would using larger bolts be advised or time-serts / helicoils be the best route?
Thanks for all the info on the site, this is truly a definitive resource for the Excursion owner.
Thanks
Mark
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Keep your current driveshafts, the only thing changing is the axles which will be mounted in the exact same position as your old ones. Only reason I say this is that different engines will have different lengths, but I don't know if their installed locations are different to compensate allowing for the same driveshafts to be used across the platform configurations.
Helicoils are the most go-to repair for the studs... You'll have to oversize the hole anyway, but it allows you to use same size bolts across the board.
Helicoils are the most go-to repair for the studs... You'll have to oversize the hole anyway, but it allows you to use same size bolts across the board.
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Keep your current driveshafts, the only thing changing is the axles which will be mounted in the exact same position as your old ones. Only reason I say this is that different engines will have different lengths, but I don't know if their installed locations are different to compensate allowing for the same driveshafts to be used across the platform configurations.
Helicoils are the most go-to repair for the studs... You'll have to oversize the hole anyway, but it allows you to use same size bolts across the board.
Helicoils are the most go-to repair for the studs... You'll have to oversize the hole anyway, but it allows you to use same size bolts across the board.
Thank for the help Krazee, all of that makes good sense.
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I agree on the helicoil repair for the exhaust studs, just be careful drilling the holes oversized as the water jacket is very close to those bolt holes.
When I swapped my stock '05 axles out for '01 axles with 4.88 gears the drive flange on the rear was different so I had to swap the original flange onto the new rear diff to be able to use my original driveshaft ( I didn't have the shaft from the '01). With both of your EXs being the same year that issue should be a non-issue.
Once you are done with swapping everything over from the totaled rig don't forget about the free parts thread at the top of this page if you are willing to share the leftovers with the community here.
When I swapped my stock '05 axles out for '01 axles with 4.88 gears the drive flange on the rear was different so I had to swap the original flange onto the new rear diff to be able to use my original driveshaft ( I didn't have the shaft from the '01). With both of your EXs being the same year that issue should be a non-issue.
Once you are done with swapping everything over from the totaled rig don't forget about the free parts thread at the top of this page if you are willing to share the leftovers with the community here.
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I asked this question in particular due to thinking of using larger bolts instead of inserts for longer life and more strength. The 8mm studs or bolts used just don't seem to last.
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I agree on the helicoil repair for the exhaust studs, just be careful drilling the holes oversized as the water jacket is very close to those bolt holes.
When I swapped my stock '05 axles out for '01 axles with 4.88 gears the drive flange on the rear was different so I had to swap the original flange onto the new rear diff to be able to use my original driveshaft ( I didn't have the shaft from the '01). With both of your EXs being the same year that issue should be a non-issue.
Once you are done with swapping everything over from the totaled rig don't forget about the free parts thread at the top of this page if you are willing to share the leftovers with the community here.
When I swapped my stock '05 axles out for '01 axles with 4.88 gears the drive flange on the rear was different so I had to swap the original flange onto the new rear diff to be able to use my original driveshaft ( I didn't have the shaft from the '01). With both of your EXs being the same year that issue should be a non-issue.
Once you are done with swapping everything over from the totaled rig don't forget about the free parts thread at the top of this page if you are willing to share the leftovers with the community here.
Thanks, the proximity of the water jacket is a concern I will be careful.
I will be posting up as much as I can for free. This forum is well worth it. The bad things is, the crashed truck is in pretty bad shape. The good part is the one I bought to replace it doesn't need a whole lot.
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Tom is right with the water jackets. You can see about using a better alloy fastener, or applying some form of high-heat anti-seize to the threads. That should allow for easier removal in the future should any maintenance be required. Any time you remove a bolt, I would also highly recommend replacing it instead of reusing it. A lot of the smaller fasteners, while reusable, often become a one-and-done fastener - much like a TTY head bolt.
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