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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Main Bolts

Hi,

I'm trying to find the right main bolt kit for my upcoming 351w swap and I've encountered a suprisingly large selection of different options and don't know where I should go.

I know you need to replace the mount bolts each time, once they've been stretched they are useless to use again. Is the same true for the main bolts? Is this a 2-bolt main such as the one found at ARP 154-5003 - ARP Main Bolt Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com or, does it require the full stud kit? What else will be an absolute necessity for my upcoming swap?

I want to do a quality job with the swap but haven't ever really tackled this project without knowledgeable assistance. If I go over budget too far my S.O. is gonna kill me.

As usual, thanks to the awesome folks here who help out the newbs!
 
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I'm confused as to what you're wanting to do. If only an engine swap, I don't know why you'd want to replace the main bolts that keep the crankshaft inside the block.

Getting inside the engine is more than just swapping, are you wanting to get more involved?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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I must be confused! Sorry.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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That is the same part# I came up with. You can use the old ones if you want, they are not torque to yield. I almost always re-use the main and head bolts when doing a rebuild, unless something a lot better is needed.

No point in using studs on a driver.

What are the details of the swap?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Citizenrain
I must be confused! Sorry.
No problem.

BTW I have never replaced the bolts that hold the engine to the mounts whenever I swap an engine, can you explain more about which bolts you're wanting to replace and what you're wanting to do?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Sorry, yes I shouldnt even need to touch the main bolts.. I'm showing off my maximum newb today.

I'm swapping an 84 351w with no oil pressure and signficant knock to an 85 351w that's got good compression and is running right. Just a straightforward swap, nothing fancy. Coming out of an 85 F-150 2wd into my 84 F-250 4x4, both 4spd manual transaxle.
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
No problem.

BTW I have never replaced the bolts that hold the engine to the mounts whenever I swap an engine, can you explain more about which bolts you're wanting to replace and what you're wanting to do?

The bolts that hold the engine to the mounts. I've always thought they needed to be replaced each time as they are torque to yield and once stretched they are no good to use again. I could just save myself some money if the consensus is that I'll be fine
 
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The mount bolts had me a little bedazzled too. None of the bolts are torque to yield on a 351w. I think he's thinking of the newer engines that are "torque to xx ft lbs then turn an extra 1/4 turn". Those are throw-away bolts.

On another note, check the pilot bearing (bushing), better to do it now, then when it's together.
 
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Pay attention to the ignition, distributor & carburetor, both are right around the time Ford went to computer-controlled Feedback Carburetors and ignitions. You might want to keep some of that stuff from your original engine.
 
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Originally Posted by 81ChopTop
The mount bolts had me a little bedazzled too. None of the bolts are torque to yield on a 351w. I think he's thinking of the newer engines that are "torque to xx ft lbs then turn an extra 1/4 turn". Those are throw-away bolts.

On another note, check the pilot bearing (bushing), better to do it now, then when it's together.
Haha yes thats exactly it. I've never done a V8 swap, just some little 4 bangers like a friend's civic or my old 02 Golf. They all had spec bolts that were throwaways once you backed them out. Good to know, thanks for the info!

This is good news then! It means all I really need from the auto parts store is some water/coolant.

Don't mind me, just making more useless threads.
 
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Don't mind me, just making more useless threads.
There is nothing useless if you're learning something.
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Pay attention to the ignition, distributor & carburetor, both are right around the time Ford went to computer-controlled Feedback Carburetors and ignitions. You might want to keep some of that stuff from your original engine.
Good call. I've checked over the engine I'm swapping to and will need to move the dizzy, carb and ignition over, as well as the air pump bracket and some other misc equipment as well. I'm also planning on moving over the valve cover gaskets as there are perches for some wires and relays there that I dont have time to relocate. I sure wish the truck was just staying in WA, it's emissions exempt here and I'd be able to eliminate a bunch of stuff. Alas, I'm using the pickup to move to PA next fall where they do 'visual inspection'.


I may just move over the whole intake assembly too but I'll burn that bridge when I get to it tomorrow its a shame, brand new carb sitting on my swap candidate..

Thanks for the help! I'll take pictures tomorrow.
 
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