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I recently replaced my worn out front springs with new V Codes. Now it's time to decide what to do with the rear. I don't tow much at all but I do have airbags for when I take the boat out of the water and the occasional trip with the travel trailer. I want the best ride I can get so would it be best to replace the existing worn out rear springs with factory springs and larger blocks or would new modded B Codes give me a smoother ride?
The B code all the way. They are a 2 stage spring designed for an unloaded light *** PU but give you what you need once loaded. The best of both worlds & what should have been on the truck in the 1st place....
The B code all the way. They are a 2 stage spring designed for an unloaded light *** PU but give you what you need once loaded. The best of both worlds & what should have been on the truck in the 1st place....
Thanks for the reply. That makes a lot of sense as the rear of the Excursion has to be a marginally heavier than the rear of a pickup.
Are you planning on doing a B mod or just installing the B code and calling it a day? If you just install the B code and nothing else there is a good chance you will squat a little in the rear when the vehicle is unloaded.
Are you planning on doing a B mod or just installing the B code and calling it a day? If you just install the B code and nothing else there is a good chance you will squat a little in the rear when the vehicle is unloaded.
Thanks Junior, Never thought about just the Bs W/O the MOD
The mod to a set of B codes doesn't really affect the ride. The two short leaves used from the old EX spring pack are not long enough to change the new B code's rating enough to notice a difference. Their sole purpose ( along with the slightly thicker EX between leaf spacers/ isolators) is to increase the ride height enough to match the higher riding front V codes without the addition cost of the taller tapered F-350 blocks.
I did the V fronts/Modded B rears. The B's without the mod would have left me just under level unloaded (not enough to really notice without a tape measure), but would have really sagged when towing.
I did the Modded B to sit me just a touch higher in the rear (again, barely noticeable without a tape) and helped with the sag when towing.
I still added air bags to get me 100% level when towing heavy...so you've already got that covered.
The B code all the way. They are a 2 stage spring designed for an unloaded light *** PU but give you what you need once loaded. The best of both worlds & what should have been on the truck in the 1st place....
In all my searching for spring replacements, I have never heard it explained this way! Thank-you! It finally makes sense WHY I would change to a B. Did not understand any benefit before reading your post.
I'm assuming I will need longer spring centering bolts for the B mod correct?
Yes, and I think that the exact measurement might be somewhere in Robert L Ross's thread from when he did his. I just went to the hardware store and bought a grade 8 bolt of the correct diameter that was too long and cut off the extra once finished with the mod.
In all my searching for spring replacements, I have never heard it explained this way! Thank-you! It finally makes sense WHY I would change to a B. Did not understand any benefit before reading your post.
That would be the non technical explanation for sure. If you want the spring rates & the tec skinny you will need to ask Tom, or Rob Ross .
You can sent the REPs at any time
That would be the non technical explanation for sure. If you want the spring rates & the tec skinny you will need to ask Tom, or Rob Ross .
Or take a gander at the tech folder.
Part of the reason the tech folder got revamped was because after years of answering all the spring related questions, I honestly got burned out on suspension threads, so I started compiling everything so I could just refer people to it. In fact, a few years back I started giving Tom a heads up with links to threads via PM because I knew he was still "fresh and eager" to respond, whereas I was old and tired.
That's why you rarely will see me post in one of those threads, and usually when I do, it's a quick addition instead of the long posts I eventually became allergic to.
Looking back, I really am burnt out on all the suspension stuff and have been so damn appreciative of all the guys who post up help, freeing me to attend to other topics.
I don't mind being called fresh as long as its not accompanied by a slap!
I do most of my posting from work, so I usually have the time to give for the longer replies. And yes, I'm still eager to help as I am still trying to pay back all of the help and info I've pulled from the membership here.
And I think that I'm a whisker older than you are boss man.
And I think that I'm a whisker older than you are boss man.
Yeah, I know my friend. I wasn't referring to our chronological age, I meant age as in how many years we've been sharing our suspension knowledge.
Years before I was a moderator, Tor used to send me PM's, alerting me to a suspension thread, asking me to post help, so you can blame him for the times I've PM'd you.
IIRC, I did my V code/B code mod a couple months after Cary did the same upgrades to his Ex, back when this mod was still in its infancy (2005, I think) and just starting out. Thanks to Cary's business acumen, with him creating CT Performance and specializing in this modification, I feel it probably helped promote it, helping it to become what it is now.