Timing pointer screws for 390?
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Timing pointer screws for 390?
I am having a heck of a time determining the size of the 2 screws/bolts that secure the timing pointer to the block. Purchased a couple of screws the auto parts person assured me were correct only to find they were not, now faced with using a tap and hopefully clean the threads? The engine is a 390 from a 64 Thunderbird.
Posting a pic from the Master Catalog, enhance by clicking on the picture. With respect to the Master Catalog, if I understand correctly, section 6023, refers to the timing pointer and associated parts? It appears there are 2 screws (373913-S) that secure the pointer to the block, not sure if I continue to browse thru the MC it will offer an help; if so, appreciate a sec; and page #.
Finally, possibly find the info thru a link I recall a member posting for OEM hardware identification; unfortunately, I could not locate the link
Comments/suggestions, Info, appreciated.
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Posting a pic from the Master Catalog, enhance by clicking on the picture. With respect to the Master Catalog, if I understand correctly, section 6023, refers to the timing pointer and associated parts? It appears there are 2 screws (373913-S) that secure the pointer to the block, not sure if I continue to browse thru the MC it will offer an help; if so, appreciate a sec; and page #.
Finally, possibly find the info thru a link I recall a member posting for OEM hardware identification; unfortunately, I could not locate the link
Comments/suggestions, Info, appreciated.
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Bill, can't thank you enough!!. Came across a couple hex head tapping screw that may, or may not, be the tapping screws that came with the pointer? I was going to give them a try and most likely damage the thread more so than I already have. This is great, the 10-24 provides a reference point and I can start from there. Again I thank you!!.
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Bill, meant to ask if the info on the tapping screw was obtained from the Master Catalog CD? Wow, seems 3 3/64" is a long screw, probably why I am having a problem, tried a tapping screw no more than 1".
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I'm sure that 3 3/64 was just a typo error.
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I am thinkin the same, unfortunately can not get a clear view with the balancer and pulley in the way. Going to get under the truck and set a piece of wire in the opening to determine the length, now if only I can remember where I placed the thread count gauge.
Jim, thank you, well there's 2 who feel 3 plus " is a bit long.
Jim, thank you, well there's 2 who feel 3 plus " is a bit long.
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I am thinkin the same, unfortunately can not get a clear view with the balancer and pulley in the way. Going to get under the truck and set a piece of wire in the opening to determine the length, now if only I can remember where I placed the thread count gauge.
Jim, thank you, well there's 2 who feel 3 plus " is a bit long.
Jim, thank you, well there's 2 who feel 3 plus " is a bit long.
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Inserted a thin plastic tube in the opening and not much in length, perhaps there is an extra 3"s and the length is approx. 3/64"s? Have to check out the 10-24x3/64 screws, possibly going to be difficult to locate, the 24 thread count seems mitty fine, limited selection locally so may have to try and find online, and possibly go to 1/2" and use a thin washer?
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Bottom of page, last entry, below 6023 timing pointer.
373913-S .. Screw-Pointer to Cover- #10 -24 x 3 3/64" long / A = Galaxie/LTD / S = Thunderbird.
373913-S .. Screw-Pointer to Cover- #10 -24 x 3 3/64" long / A = Galaxie/LTD / S = Thunderbird.
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I think it must be a typo in the catalog. Anything over 3" would be going clear through the timing cover and into the engine block and maybe puncture a water jacket or a bore - in other words, way too long.
My battery died on my digital caliper but right before it did I got .29xx on just the threads, which is about 19/64" and I would have visually guessed about 5/16" which is within a 64th.
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My battery died on my digital caliper but right before it did I got .29xx on just the threads, which is about 19/64" and I would have visually guessed about 5/16" which is within a 64th.
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From Bill's MC link the timing pointer screws 373913-S are 10-24-5/16", which is about couple .0156 difference, close enough.
I would like to know if one has to be a Retired Ford Parts Manager to have access to a special edition of the Ford Master Catalog; when I go to Section 60.6 P2 it has nothing to do with the FE engine; however, Section 60.7 P2 appears to be the same as the link Bill posted but does not provide the screw size, what's that all about?
I would like to know if one has to be a Retired Ford Parts Manager to have access to a special edition of the Ford Master Catalog; when I go to Section 60.6 P2 it has nothing to do with the FE engine; however, Section 60.7 P2 appears to be the same as the link Bill posted but does not provide the screw size, what's that all about?
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From Bill's MC link the timing pointer screws 373913-S are 10-24-5/16", which is about couple .0156 difference, close enough.
I would like to know if one has to be a Retired Ford Parts Manager to have access to a special edition of the Ford Master Catalog; when I go to Section 60.6 P2 it has nothing to do with the FE engine; however, Section 60.7 P2 appears to be the same as the link Bill posted but does not provide the screw size, what's that all about?
I would like to know if one has to be a Retired Ford Parts Manager to have access to a special edition of the Ford Master Catalog; when I go to Section 60.6 P2 it has nothing to do with the FE engine; however, Section 60.7 P2 appears to be the same as the link Bill posted but does not provide the screw size, what's that all about?
I'll bet he is scanning pages from an older paper copy that he has.
.0156 in this case would be a skosh.
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Yes, imagine Bill's MC catalogs would fall in the category of an antiques. I have 2 of the 3 hard bound Master Catalogs Manuals, measuring 12"x10" and weight approx. 18lbs each, purchased a several years ago and probly considered recent editions; both contain same information as on the CD? Posting link from my MC CD; what in the heck is with this (2 of 373913-S Screws)? 
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OK, it's a FORD typo not a Bill typo..
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