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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 03:14 AM
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Tow capacity increase

I have a 1990 f250 carb swaped 302 5 speed 2x4. 3.55 rearend

What could i do to increase towing capacity. I need to tow about 6000-8000lbs. Ill be towing a boat

Ive considered adding a few leafs in the rear and. I also have a dually wheel kit i could put on this truck. Would these help
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 03:16 AM
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Also what should i be able to to using a weight distributing trailer with brakes

Would a drop hitch help any. Using rear bumper now
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
I have a 1990 f250 carb swaped 302 5 speed 2x4. 3.55 rearend

What could i do to increase towing capacity. I need to tow about 6000-8000lbs. Ill be towing a boat
Legally? Nothing you can do will increase the towing capacity.

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Ive considered adding a few leafs in the rear and.
That's a start

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I also have a dually wheel kit i could put on this truck. Would these help
No


Honestly I have to say you have the wrong vehicle to seriously consider towing 6000-8000 pounds. That 302 is just not going to work, especially with 3.55 gears.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
Also what should i be able to to using a weight distributing trailer with brakes
You definitely need electric trailer brakes

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Would a drop hitch help any. Using rear bumper now
Do not consider using your rear bumper for anything bigger than a small trailer. You DEFINITELY need a real frame mounted hitch.

So once you have the chassis properly setup to tow then you come back around to having a 302 engine and 3.55 gears...
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 07:52 AM
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What gains should i expect by swapping the 3.55 to a 4.10 or 4.30. Ive even considered a 4.56 but im not sure if that have that size that fits the axle.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:05 AM
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No matter what you do the 302 really doesn't have the torque to move that sized load efficiently

But 4.10 gears would be a step in the right direction
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:10 AM
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Between 4.10 and 4.56 what rpms should i expect to see the truck at when crusing in 4th or 5th gear
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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The manual transmission is the weak link in that truck which is little more than an F150 with a larger rear axle, as it sits right now it's only rated to tow about 4000lbs(7800lb GCWR). With an auto trans and 4.10 gears tow capacity still only goes to 6k which gets you closer but still well short of the goal. Bottom line is you're bringing a knife to a gun fight so there is no way you can win, time to start looking for a different truck.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Well i think i still got a good deal paid 500, and all i had to do is put a new clutch in it

I think ill put 410 or 430s in it an and ill just get a better truck later when iM ready to get a bigger boat

The campers 4000 lbs so i figure with 4.30s it should be ok

And my bass boat is around 3000 lbs. only thing im not sure about is pulling mu ford 2600 tractor ill have to research the weight of it
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:55 AM
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Don't use the bumper to tow anything. Get a real hitch. I also don't know if you have a friend, etc.. that sets up rear axles, but swapping axle ratios isn't a cheap endeavor.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
I need to tow about 6000-8000lbs. Ill be towing a boat
Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
The campers 4000 lbs.......

And my bass boat is around 3000 lbs. only thing im not sure about is pulling mu ford 2600 tractor ill have to research the weight of it
Uhm what, are you talking hauling around a 4000lb slide in camper AND towing 3000-8000lbs? Are you talking about double towing?


A 1990 2wd f250 with a 302, decent chance it's a light duty model. Does it have a full float rear axle? Does it have overload springs that mount above the main spring with pads on the frame?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Here is how the OP post should of went

Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
I have a 1990 f250 carb swaped 302 5 speed 2x4. 3.55 rearend

What could i do to increase towing capacity. I need to tow about 6000-8000lbs. Ill be towing a boat


I dont care what you say, I just want reassurance that THIS truck will do what I want it to. And if you say otherwise I will just ignore you
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Here is how the OP post should of went
lol funny but brad is as usual.... brutally honest


also to the OP, you basically have a glorified half ton. it also doesn't really matter as brake upgrades are needed for any increase to be considered.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Here is how the OP post should of went
Not to pile on the OP but it get's worse, now he wants to put $1600 into the 302.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...p-end-kit.html

The engine isn't the problem, it just means he goes slower. The chassis, hitch, brakes, axle, etc. needed to carry and stop the weight is a problem.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Fulcher
Between 4.10 and 4.56 what rpms should i expect to see the truck at when crusing in 4th or 5th gear
Assuming you have 31.7" tall tires (235/85-16) and the Mazda M5OD trans (1:1 4th gear, 0.8:1 5th):

3.55 gears, 4th gear, 55 mph= 2070 rpm, 60 mph=2258 rpm, 65 mph=2446 rpm
3.55 gears, 5th gear, 55 mph= 1656 rpm, 60 mph=1806 rpm, 65 mph=1957 rpm

4.10 gears, 4th gear, 55 mph= 2390 rpm, 60 mph=2607 rpm, 65 mph=2825 rpm
4.10 gears, 5th gear, 55 mph= 1912 rpm, 60 mph=2086 rpm, 65 mph=2260 rpm

4.56 gears, 4th gear, 55 mph= 2658 rpm, 60 mph=2900 rpm, 65 mph=3142 rpm
4.56 gears, 5th gear, 55 mph= 2127 rpm, 60 mph=2320 rpm, 65 mph=2513 rpm
 
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