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Old 10-15-2015, 10:47 AM
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Real deal or snake oil?

I came across a company offering 0 ohm spark plug wires and pellets. They claim a 400% increase in power delivered to the plugs with an attendant 15HP increase with a normally aspirated engine.

I'm curious -

What is the purpose of the resistor pellet?
What is the value of the OEM resistor pellet?
Other than the very high price ($293.00), is there really a benefit to installing this?
Is there a potential for engine damage from using something like this?

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the resistor... inside spark plugs..

are needed to suppress electric noise generated by the spark.

you like your clean sounding radio.. or for your engine computer to work correctly?

snake oil/type of product... just like all the other spark plugs that cost over 10 dollars each..

there also is a spark plug that claims to generate plasma in its spark at 18 dollars each.
 
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These resistor pellets are not part of the spark plug. They are located in the COP tower where the spark plug wire plugs in.
There are OEM pellets that you remove and then install the 0 ohm pellets - presumably to maintain electrical continuity.
Of course the company claims they have some kind of ring that serves for noise suppression.
Over the years I have learned that most modifications or after market items are a waste of time and money, often decreasing performance and durability.
Every once in a while I run across something I've not seen before and want to know if it actually works as advertised and how it works.
 
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There is nothing Wrong with investigating and Learning... I still do.

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post up a link to these plugs and pellets please.


I would never buy but would like to see there site
 
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Originally Posted by eazmo View Post
post up a link to these plugs and pellets please.


I would never buy but would like to see there site
2011 - 2012 Ford 6.2L Ignition Wires and Coil Pack Internals: Granatelli Motorsports

On their website the price is nearly $300.00, but in this thread - https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...roblems-6.html he offers a special price of $114.99.
 
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https://www.pulstar.com/

for plasma spark plugs... Really?
 
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Interesting, but no thanks for me. I think ford is pretty smart. so I'm calling snake oil.


These items very well may have some positive results but in my experience there always seems to be some sort of glitch or side effect if you will with aftermarket products like these.


I'll just drive mine as is.


thanks for posting links guys.
 
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There is a lot of misinformation about ignition voltages and "low resistance" being considered the holy grail to wires and plugs. Also, the higher the coil voltage, the better!

Except, it doesn't really work that way. For example, despite its name a 40,000 volt ignition coil doesn't continuously apply 40,000 volts, although it would be capable of providing up to that should it be required. The ignition only draws what it needs, if it takes only 12,000 volts to jump the spark plug gap, that's how much. As plugs (and wires) age the voltage required to reliably fire does increase however, and having a 20,000 volt coil provides a margin of safety. The rest is mostly BS.

Fresh wires and plugs, of good quality are what matters particularly the insulation. We don't want it to breakdown in the presence of moisture, fuel, oil, ozone, sunlight, acids, pollution etc. I wouldn't buy wires or plugs based strictly on their ohms resistance, that's simply a marketing ploy. They may be measuring this in some hinky manner anyway.

The price alone should be a dead giveaway. Wire just ain't an expensive item, no matter how fancy. Let's say for the sake of argument, that these WunderKables did everything they advertised.

And technically - they do, because they "can provide up to 400% more" power, right? (Just like any other piece of wire, ha ha that's why the FTC can't do anything, they aren't strictly lying)

It's not magic - so why the magic price tag? Those boat payments gotta get made somehow, that's why. Stay away.
 
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snake oil is snake oil

mouse milk is mouse milk

use OEM or similar.. all will be good.

just like the Pulstar plugs.

I contacted the company and asked . the extra coil added to the spark plug.. how do you avoid delaying the spark.. as all coils need time to built up the voltage..

I got a standard "Thank You Reply".. and NO answer.
 
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Yep, the Ford engineers are some real fart smellers - I mean smart fellers!
I'm happy with the way my truck runs, and I intend to keep it that way, as well.
It is entertaining though, to see all the inventive ways folks come up with to separate consumers from their money.
 
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The point y'all are totally missing is that with the plasma generating plugs, you can create a rip in the space / time continuum and do some time traveling. I just got back from California, 1849, with a ****load of gold. You should have seen their faces when I pulled up in the Platinum!
Damn near ran outta gas, though.
 
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I am sure you made them Sit Up and look...

good thing your Platinum had 4x4...
and would have been another 40 years till gas is made...
 
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Originally Posted by JIM_C View Post
The point y'all are totally missing is that with the plasma generating plugs, you can create a rip in the space / time continuum and do some time traveling

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I wonder what that isn't. Thanks for the downdate.
 
 
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