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After talking to Jody at DP this is what he has recommended me. I am very thankful for this advice and am just posting on here for other opinions and options.
After talking to Jody at DP this is what he has recommended me. I am very thankful for this advice and am just posting on here for other opinions and options.
I was hoping around 600 with this but the exact number does not matter as much I want it to be more powerful and reliable
Did Jody mention all of the supporting mods that you will "HAVE" to do in order to keep from breaking your suspension, grenading your transmission.
If not, you'll need to spend about $6000-7000, on the conservative side, just to get your truck ready for that kind of HP, then and only then, you can consider the above mods to the engine.....unless you just want to putt around and never utilize that power.
Axle wrap starts being a problem at around 350-375 HP, even lower if you have 10k lbs or above hitched to your truck. A decent set of ladder bars will run you close to $1k. And it does not stop there for the suspension.
You should look at spending about $5000-7000 on a good tranny and TC.
600 HP ain't gonna be cheap if you want it to be reliable.
I also plan on going to BTS for a transmission but I had no idea the suspension mods were that important, can you direct me to the main parts that need to be replaced or modified?
Great link! You will see him say "it can be tamed enough for an everyday driver and still tow if you add a water meth kit". That is a clear statement - a 600 HP 7.3L needs some help to do a casual chore, like tow.
Getting back to those 180/100s - they will yield about 400 - 425 HP, with all the supporting mods. Those sticks are at about the limit of an OEM pump, if you do some other fuel mods. Traction bars are a must with those sticks, as mentioned - OUO has some nice stuff. I would call Clay at Riffraff Diesel, but that's my go-to guy for just about any truck parts. BTS is a fantastic transmission, that covers your sticks there. You may need a visit to the driveline - a tired driveline can bend with your newfound 800 ft/lbs of torque.
If you're disappointed you can't get to 600 HP like you thought, I wouldn't be. At that power range, you no longer have a realistic daily driver - and the slightest change will make the tuning turn on you. That would be a competition HP, and that's about it. If you plan to go to competitions with the truck, then the link provided by my buddy jhl3 has you covered... except for the traction/ladder bars and driveline.
Ignoring the HP - it's the torque, it's the torque, it's the torque that slaps a permagrin on your face so hard that your next driver's license photo will have that silly-looking thing on it:
Great link! You will see him say "it can be tamed enough for an everyday driver and still tow if you add a water meth kit". That is a clear statement - a 600 HP 7.3L needs some help to do a casual chore, like tow.
This is the one thing I will disagree a bit with Irate Diesel about. Injectors like 300/200's are big, but with very good tuning they can be absolutely fantastic for towing without any need whatsoever for water/meth.
This is the one thing I will disagree a bit with Irate Diesel about. Injectors like 300/200's are big, but with very good tuning they can be absolutely fantastic for towing without any need whatsoever for water/meth.
Absolutely... but you likely need to self tune, or have a good buddy that tunes very close-by to live-tune as needed. Joe consumer will have more of an issue, because there are only a handful of people in the whole country that can do this - and I know of two of them that don't do this commercially. Right Pocket?
Absolutely... but you likely need to self tune, or have a good buddy that tunes very close-by to live-tune as needed. Joe consumer will have more of an issue, because there are only a handful of people in the whole country that can do this - and I know of two of them that don't do this commercially. Right Pocket?
LISTEN TO THIS!!!! Tuning is a everything in my opinion and there are very few that will do it right,first you need to find the person who can tune it!
Absolutely... but you likely need to self tune, or have a good buddy that tunes very close-by to live-tune as needed. Joe consumer will have more of an issue, because there are only a handful of people in the whole country that can do this - and I know of two of them that don't do this commercially. Right Pocket?
Backstory - jgilrfr recently "changed his tune" and he's had a taste of how proper tuning can truly upgrade the pleasure factor of these rigs. I went through the same thing a couple of years back... and the benefits of proper tuning - particularly on big sticks - can't be overstated.
Well, 600 is a lot. I spent 25k on my build to achieve just over 500. That does not include any suspension upgrades or transmission, except for the John Wood valve body. That said all I need is an injector upgrade to get what I want for hp. My motor is built for max hp, so injectors is all it needs for 600 or more. What Jody has offered you will get you maybe 300 to 350 hp. The motor is going to take stress though. To get the high hp you have to do all the supporting upgrades. Which means a build. And suspension and transmission.
This is the one thing I will disagree a bit with Irate Diesel about. Injectors like 300/200's are big, but with very good tuning they can be absolutely fantastic for towing without any need whatsoever for water/meth.
I have 250 shots, and over 500hp. I have never had any issue towing my 41ft 18000lb Raptor. None. Proper build and supporting mods and you will not need any methane or water. What a joke. We have some huge climbs hear in BC. Using the tow tunes Jody did for me. I can hold it to the floor on a huge climb and my temps only get as high as 1300, so I back off to about 1200 and set the cruise. Easily hold the speed limit and pass the dodges with there trailers. If you want the power, just do it right and you will have no issues. They have 4 cylinder rocket cars with over 1200hp. But they last one race and you need a new one. So you can cram as much hp as you want into any motor, if you want it to blow up. If you spend the money to do it right, as I did, then all these storys are just storys. None stand true on a real build. Do it right. And if you tell jody all the parts you put into the motor, he can tune it from his living room. No need for live tuning. I did my build myself. Emailed all the parts to Jody and he did all my tunes. Tested on live data, sent it to him and he made adjustments off that data. Sent me new tunes and now its mint. What a rocket. Smoked a brand new mustang gt last night. Boy was he surprise. He had me until my converter locked in 3rd, then I blew by him like he was parked. Hahahaha.
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