Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ball Joint question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 3, 2015 | 10:08 PM
  #1  
Watcher58's Avatar
Watcher58
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,108
Likes: 23
Ball Joint question

Ive had 3 different places tell me my ball joints are fine. I bought this from a dealer who said he put new ball joints and axle seals on. After all my mods, the steering felt a little on the wandering side. I lube the ball joints and it is significantly better. Im greasing them about every 2k miles. My bet is on cheap *** ball joints. The dealer put in a new battery---it was Advance Auto's cheapest bargain basement battery. I couldn't leave the radio on 30 min w/o the car running or there weren't enough amps to start. Opinions??
 
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2015 | 11:35 PM
  #2  
A Rodder's Avatar
A Rodder
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Are the bottom ones able to take grease?
 
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2015 | 11:37 PM
  #3  
pirate4x4_camo's Avatar
pirate4x4_camo
Lead Driver
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,259
Likes: 346
From: Northern California
Used car dealers have to do a safety inspection on a car and repair any unsafe items, however they don't have to use OEM parts, as a matter of fact , most will use the least expensive parts they can purchase to get the vehicle to pass the safety inspection.

You should be able to go back to the dealer and ask for a copy of the safety inspection and repair order and see if they did the ball joints. But if you have been greasing the joints every 2k chances are your options are limited by time and use.

You don't say what state you are in or how long ago you bought the vehicle but you can contact your states B.A.R. And find out the process for recourse if the dealer is not cooperating.

All that said, cheap *** joints is a good bet.
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2015 | 12:00 AM
  #4  
wpnaes's Avatar
wpnaes
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 30,593
Likes: 1,236
From: N. IL
Have you tightened your steering box?
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2015 | 01:03 AM
  #5  
Watcher58's Avatar
Watcher58
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,108
Likes: 23
Everything has been done on this truck--spring swap, RAS, radius rods, new steering gear--the ball joints both (u and l) take grease but I guess this may be at the root of my thinking. The lower, as was asked, will take grease. However it seems to flow mostly one side and I have to try to massage it around. Some grease pushes out of the dust boot but I am still having to try to move grease inside the boot around the ball joint which does not want to cooperate. I live in MT and bought it online in NE so dealer really wont be any help. I bought an extended warranty and Ball joints are covered but I want it done right, not twice. I have not had it aligned. From where I started with this last Nov (had 82K miles on it), its like 300% better (now 91K) Everybody says the ball joints Are good--if you go by the "there's no play in them" test. I'm wondering if they move much at all. When I got this X home, I did all fluid changes. When I went to grease the BJ's, each of the lowers took 10+ pumps on the grease gun to get the dust boot to puff up even a little like they installed them but didn't grease them. I think the majority of people would say it steers really well but I know something is still not right. Another thing I notice is it sTEERS better on the highway in 4WD. Guess I'm looking for validation of my suspicions
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2015 | 01:49 AM
  #6  
A Rodder's Avatar
A Rodder
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Drilling and tapping my stockers at 110k took care of the last 10% of my wandering issue. Redhead box was 75% of it

I had good shops say the lower ball joints were good by just doing the wiggle test. Mine were sticking causing the steering not to self center. Been great for 10k miles.
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2015 | 03:11 AM
  #7  
Watcher58's Avatar
Watcher58
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,108
Likes: 23
Originally Posted by A Rodder
Drilling and tapping my stockers at 110k took care of the last 10% of my wandering issue. Redhead box was 75% of it

I had good shops say the lower ball joints were good by just doing the wiggle test. Mine were sticking causing the steering not to self center. Been great for 10k miles.
That's a good depiction of what I was thinking--sticking. What type ball joints did you use to replace the defective ones?
 
Reply
Old Sep 4, 2015 | 09:02 AM
  #8  
A Rodder's Avatar
A Rodder
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 0
Mine are the ones it came with from new. I drilled and installed a grease fitting on the bottom. I rolled the dice and it made all the difference. Otherwise I'd had to have replaced them.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 5, 2015 | 07:14 PM
  #9  
The2003Excursion's Avatar
The2003Excursion
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 458
Likes: 2
From: The Northwoods, Wisconsin
Install matters

I just replaced mine with XFR units. The PO had paperwork where the tire shop had redone them soon before I purchased. One thing I heard on YouTube was making sure you torque correctly. The instructions that came with mine were very specific and I followed them. The old ones were VERY hard to swivel. After, it had a slight resistance, but was night and day. I had to put all my weight into it before to make them move. No slop indicating they were bad, but I can't see how being bound up was good. Just a thought.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2015 | 06:57 AM
  #10  
DavenTn's Avatar
DavenTn
Cargo Master
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,079
Likes: 63
From: Florida and Tennessee
Check the unit bearings
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2015 | 01:31 PM
  #11  
RobRoss's Avatar
RobRoss
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 2
From: Flat Rock, MI
Try turning the wheel to full lock and then try greasing the ball joint. Typically ball joints will have slots in the side of the ball to help distribute the grease, maybe that will help distribute it. Can't hurt.

Originally Posted by Watcher58
Everything has been done on this truck--spring swap, RAS, radius rods, new steering gear--the ball joints both (u and l) take grease but I guess this may be at the root of my thinking. The lower, as was asked, will take grease. However it seems to flow mostly one side and I have to try to massage it around. Some grease pushes out of the dust boot but I am still having to try to move grease inside the boot around the ball joint which does not want to cooperate. I live in MT and bought it online in NE so dealer really wont be any help. I bought an extended warranty and Ball joints are covered but I want it done right, not twice. I have not had it aligned. From where I started with this last Nov (had 82K miles on it), its like 300% better (now 91K) Everybody says the ball joints Are good--if you go by the "there's no play in them" test. I'm wondering if they move much at all. When I got this X home, I did all fluid changes. When I went to grease the BJ's, each of the lowers took 10+ pumps on the grease gun to get the dust boot to puff up even a little like they installed them but didn't grease them. I think the majority of people would say it steers really well but I know something is still not right. Another thing I notice is it sTEERS better on the highway in 4WD. Guess I'm looking for validation of my suspicions
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Rongold
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
39
Jun 14, 2014 12:23 PM
SpokaneJim
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
6
May 8, 2010 12:50 AM
Mayne Man
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
Jul 23, 2008 08:51 AM
merlins'92f250d
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
9
Mar 1, 2008 08:09 PM
crashed13
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Feb 23, 2006 02:28 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE