The RUBY Build--Red Means FAST!!
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From: AZ
You sparked my curiosity so I asked Dieselsite about a 180° and this is the reply I got from Bob.
"Your thermostat only regulates minimum operating temps. The radiator regulates maximum operating temps.
IH trucks all use 205 stats in their medium duty rigs with the same engine. The thermostat will have no affect on your pulling loaded temps. It will only maintain a higher unloaded temp."
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From: Texas
You sparked my curiosity so I asked Dieselsite about a 180° and this is the reply I got from Bob.
"Your thermostat only regulates minimum operating temps. The radiator regulates maximum operating temps.
IH trucks all use 205 stats in their medium duty rigs with the same engine. The thermostat will have no affect on your pulling loaded temps. It will only maintain a higher unloaded temp."
"Your thermostat only regulates minimum operating temps. The radiator regulates maximum operating temps.
IH trucks all use 205 stats in their medium duty rigs with the same engine. The thermostat will have no affect on your pulling loaded temps. It will only maintain a higher unloaded temp."
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From: Austin, TX
My hate towards the IH pump isn't from a reliability stand point or anything. I dislike the iron construction, the short stem thermostat, and having the coolant filter mounted directly on the pump. I also dislike that its a fairly special pump that I can replace in a pinch. It has to be ordered or you must find an IH dealer. I've seen water pumps fail more than once in such a way that the blades of the pump start rubbing the front cover and in that situation I want to be able to get a pump same day and get the truck going again. Just my own preference. I like my coolant filter mounted off to the side and like having a conventional pump I can easily find a replacement for.
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My hate towards the IH pump isn't from a reliability stand point or anything. I dislike the iron construction, the short stem thermostat, and having the coolant filter mounted directly on the pump. I also dislike that its a fairly special pump that I can replace in a pinch. It has to be ordered or you must find an IH dealer. I've seen water pumps fail more than once in such a way that the blades of the pump start rubbing the front cover and in that situation I want to be able to get a pump same day and get the truck going again. Just my own preference. I like my coolant filter mounted off to the side and like having a conventional pump I can easily find a replacement for.
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Question....if my radiator looks clean and flows well when pressure is applied to the top inlet and comes out the bottom inlet with gusto, is there a good chance my radiator is good? It's easy to replace if it isn't, but I am really hoping it's alright. I am running out of $$ for this budget until Spring.
In keeping with the thread title, here is what has been done the last 2 weeks and 2 years
1) CX Racing IC
2) Rosewood Injectors
3) T500 HPOP
4) Motorcraft WP
5) E-Fuel
6) Bellowed Uppies
7) John Wood HD Trans
8) tightened oil dipstick nut LOL
9) Did I mention WP due to my idiocy?
Thanks for reading dudes..the water pump debacle was not supposed to be part of the "build" LOL
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From: AZ
All good points Travis! I probably shouldn't be traveling with a IH. We should have had this discussion a week ago and I would have gotten a diesel site one to put on. Oh well, maybe this winter I'll get one on.
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
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From: Texas
All good points Travis! I probably shouldn't be traveling with a IH. We should have had this discussion a week ago and I would have gotten a diesel site one to put on. Oh well, maybe this winter I'll get one on.
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
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From: Orrville, Ohio
All good points Travis! I probably shouldn't be traveling with a IH. We should have had this discussion a week ago and I would have gotten a diesel site one to put on. Oh well, maybe this winter I'll get one on.
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
Edit: considering all the hoses and bolts maybe I should just get a spare IH to carry with me. Be cheaper anyway, those dieselsite one's are expensive!
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From: Texas
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From: Plankinton, SD
My hate towards the IH pump isn't from a reliability stand point or anything. I dislike the iron construction, the short stem thermostat, and having the coolant filter mounted directly on the pump. I also dislike that its a fairly special pump that I can replace in a pinch. It has to be ordered or you must find an IH dealer. I've seen water pumps fail more than once in such a way that the blades of the pump start rubbing the front cover and in that situation I want to be able to get a pump same day and get the truck going again. Just my own preference. I like my coolant filter mounted off to the side and like having a conventional pump I can easily find a replacement for.
At least it's not just me!
I'm not a hater either, but for the same reasons I like what I have.
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From: AZ
Only thing is I would like to filter out the sand. I couldn't believe how much came out of the mare in only 4K miles. Another decision to make and I don't know the size of the thermostat that's in it now. On some tough hills it only got about straight up and down on the gauge.
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From: AZ
Its more complicated then that JP. The bolts are different lengths, the heater hoses are shortened, the lower radiator hose is a cummins hose, etc. Now if I carried a spare IH WP (they are cheap) then problem solved. I have a filter installed on the Mule that's mounted on the firewall but I personally like the IH. IDK It was the hot thing to do there for awhile but now its a piece of ........? Maybe I should just leave the low mileage WP on the OX and take the IH pump and stuff home with me, again IDK!