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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 03:55 PM
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barn door hinge pin - removal?

Anyone know if the pin in the barn door hinges can be removed? I took a quick look but it seems like there is a ridge or retaining ring on the bottom of the pin, anyone removed one before, and how was it done?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 03:15 AM
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The pins CAN BE REMOVED. Where the pins link to the frame there is a black push-pin retainer. Depress the black retainer and lift the pin at the same time and presto your "barn doors" can now accommodate a wider load.


Believe it or not with my very first Excursion, a 2000 XLT, I was able fit a brand new riding mower plastic wrapped on a pallet inside the cargo area. Of course the seats folded down...it was really cool.


Once I got home and as I was in the process of removing it my brother stopped by, gave a double look and was in complete awe. Of course he asks why didn't I just call him to use his pick-up instead so I went on to explain I didn't want to wait the customary 2 - 3 weeks before I had to call to remind him again.


This was one of the main selling points for me buying my any of my Excursions. I will NEVER have to reply someone again. You know the type, "hey if you ever want to use the truck just give me a call". Rrright!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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I think your talking about releasing the little metal bar that limits how far the door can open right?
I'm talking about the pin that holds the door half and the truck half of the hinge together.

Mainly I want to do this because when we go camping or travel for long trips we bring a small trailer and the doors are always in the way while loading and unloading, I'd like a simple quick way to completely remove the door. Releasing the limiter and opening them further just puts them in the way in a different place.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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Can you? sure, grind the head and punch it through, replace with a pin.
Being external hinges, that could present a security issue. I would expect you(or others) could pop the doors out pretty quickly with the pins removed.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JPG63
The pins CAN BE REMOVED. Where the pins link to the frame there is a black push-pin retainer. Depress the black retainer and lift the pin at the same time and presto your "barn doors" can now accommodate a wider load.


Believe it or not with my very first Excursion, a 2000 XLT, I was able fit a brand new riding mower plastic wrapped on a pallet inside the cargo area. Of course the seats folded down...it was really cool.


Once I got home and as I was in the process of removing it my brother stopped by, gave a double look and was in complete awe. Of course he asks why didn't I just call him to use his pick-up instead so I went on to explain I didn't want to wait the customary 2 - 3 weeks before I had to call to remind him again.


This was one of the main selling points for me buying my any of my Excursions. I will NEVER have to reply someone again. You know the type, "hey if you ever want to use the truck just give me a call". Rrright!

i would love to see a pic of this, and sorry for getting off tipic buts this is a must see if he has one

ill also take a look at mine, i wouldnt think that these would be hard at all and with mine starting to rust a i need to do the remove and sand em down then repaint to get rid of the rust off. These doors are very light, as they are fiberglass. If your wanting to do a quick release type hinge have you looked to see how the hinge mounts to the actual door. Just thinking of different ways of doing it.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 05:02 AM
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barn door hinge pin - removal?

Originally Posted by bcrewcaptain
Can you? sure, grind the head and punch it through, replace with a pin.
Being external hinges, that could present a security issue. I would expect you(or others) could pop the doors out pretty quickly with the pins removed.
I wonder if they would come off with the top hatch closed and locked?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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I wonder if they would come off with the top hatch closed and locked?
There would be some play, either way, they're just fiberglass, and certainly are not going to last long if somebody just yanked on the bottom, there is no strength there and the only thing holding them would be the tiny catch at the top of the door.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 07:22 AM
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deng great idea, maybe. hear me out.

Going off the design of the bed extender rails that trucks use. Build a similar cage that mounts to the body of the Excursion just as they do the trucks. Then having a platform that extends the length of the floor of the Excursion. This also mounts and holds the barn doors in place while also mounting to the hatch to keep it up in place.

This could be a good idea but not sure on how realistic it could be and it would only be for a short time use. But just like the truck bed extenders it all collapses and folds in so that you can still use your cargo area when not in use.

If your looking to get more room out of your cargo area that would be legit. Like i said idk how realistic it would be tho, but i think it could be done.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AppocAlexx
deng great idea, maybe. hear me out.

Going off the design of the bed extender rails that trucks use. Build a similar cage that mounts to the body of the Excursion just as they do the trucks. Then having a platform that extends the length of the floor of the Excursion. This also mounts and holds the barn doors in place while also mounting to the hatch to keep it up in place.

This could be a good idea but not sure on how realistic it could be and it would only be for a short time use. But just like the truck bed extenders it all collapses and folds in so that you can still use your cargo area when not in use.

If your looking to get more room out of your cargo area that would be legit. Like i said idk how realistic it would be tho, but i think it could be done.

I actually fabbed something similar(I think) to what you're saying. I made a tray that was on heavy duty tracks/rollers that slid the floor out about 2'5 feet. This was used for camping purposes, toss a tarp over the hatch, and you have waterproof sleeping quarters and 10ft of space inside the truck. The issue with keeping the barn doors in place is that if you want to close the hatch, the barn doors cannot be sticking straight back or the hatch glass will hit, and that could be expensive. Removing the doors would certainly help in that case. I know on my truck the hatch will stay up even at 65mph, but for peace of mind, I still fashioned a brace that kept the hatch from dropping.(extendable painters pole that clamps in place)
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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Both my excursion's doors fully open, it's easily the best and most universal mod you can make.

As for space, you already have 4x8, not much I need is more than that.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Both my excursion's doors fully open, it's easily the best and most universal mod you can make.

As for space, you already have 4x8, not much I need is more than that.

you obviously have never tried to sleep on that slope of a 2nd seat
 
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