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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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Hard start for 6.0

I have an 03 f250 that i think is getting air in the fuel line when it sits. It turns over starts and immediately shuts off. Then i have to crank it for a minute or so before it will start. After that it is good all day. Next day it might sputter on start but stays on. More than a day it shuts off immediately and needs cranking for a minute. Any ideas? I'm a newbie and don't know much...
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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Any codes? Also, have you checked the FICM voltage? Pretty common cause for the issues you are having.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 07:47 PM
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Get a scangauge2 first thing and program it with the codes from their website. Get one at autozone. It will tell you everything you need to know. A must have on these trucks. Need to check icp and ipr and fuel pressure too.

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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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use coupon code TRT30 at Advance Auto on-line for the Scan Gauge2, saves you $50 off the price. Do in store pick-up, you still have to program it.

Or get Torque Pro for Android, use a OBD2 EML327 with blue tooth for about $30, gets you pre programmed gauges and a great code reader. Ebay the adapter, App store for the software.

The pump should be clearing the air whenever you key on. You check for a drip of fuel off the pump or anyplace along the line? You have a plastic tank, the metal ones de-laminate inside.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Using OEM filters (oil and fuel)?

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A recent case - the owner had an issue w/ the fuel line vapor locking and it turned out to be related to an aftermarket upper fuel filter (that did not have the air purge hole and the indexing tab). An aftermarket oil filter wouldn't produce your symptoms, but it can cause other issues.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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Bad high pressure oil pump?
Is the truck parked on an incline? With the front higher then the back?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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Have you replaced your dummy plugs?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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he doesn't have dummy plugs in his 03.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
Bad high pressure oil pump?
Is the truck parked on an incline? With the front higher then the back?
Yes my truck is usually on an incline with front hight than the back.
 
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Park it nose down, bet it starts.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
Park it nose down, bet it starts.
So it started right up on the first crank this morning. I take it i need a new high pressure oil pump. Is it something i could do myself?
 
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Originally Posted by lespatrick
So it started right up on the first crank this morning. I take it i need a new high pressure oil pump. Is it something i could do myself?
It would seem to be so but to be 100% certain alot more diag is needed. However I have never seen this issue be anything but a high pressure pump.
A question im often asked.
My disclaimer response :
I have nonway to know your technical skill set, ive never met you. Im a poor judge of what people can and can not do based on my skill level.

My awnser.
I find this to be as easy job and I can have it done in under 4 hours. If this was my truck and I had the extra money on hand I would also replace the oil cooler and flush the cooling system. This turns it in to about a 6 hour job for me.

My advise is to allow yourself a weekend to complete it all.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
It would seem to be so but to be 100% certain alot more diag is needed. However I have never seen this issue be anything but a high pressure pump.
A question im often asked.
My disclaimer response :
I have nonway to know your technical skill set, ive never met you. Im a poor judge of what people can and can not do based on my skill level.

My awnser.
I find this to be as easy job and I can have it done in under 4 hours. If this was my truck and I had the extra money on hand I would also replace the oil cooler and flush the cooling system. This turns it in to about a 6 hour job for me.

My advise is to allow yourself a weekend to complete it all.
4 hrs! Wow, color me jealous

I would say a weekend is about right, if I added up all the one hour and two hour times I worked on it due to a crazy schedule a weekend is about right.

This board and youtube are invaluable, or I would have not felt too good about doing it myself even with a mechanical background.

I didn't do the cooler because my deltas were really good, and when I took the cooler out to update the screen it was already updated, and I have a hunch the cooler was done already at some point.

To the OP, don't be afraid to ask something, as silly as it may sound, since the odds are if you run into something it's happened to someone else at some point.
 
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Dont be jealous, ive done a few hundred.
The first one was a nightmare.
 
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