first of all I have a 03 6.0 excursion lemon law buy back,( yea I know,it goes without saying), 154,000 mi. HPOP was installed at 97,000, I have had a couple injectors put in since.
my truck will not start in the morning, turns over runs for a second like its gonna start then dies I keep trying , the same thing, good batteries, oil cooler put in with HPOP,never had a problem since. The darn thing wont start, I live in calif. so its not cold. Long about 3:00 pm the truck will start, limping along until it seems like the fuel catches up with it, I checked the fuel for air but the bowl was full. All OEM filters, cap, motorcraft syn. blend oil. This has been going on a few days now, once it starts in the afternoon and warms up it will drive down the road but with limited power like it has a governor on it, I hear the turbo at the start of accell. but then it goes away.If I step on it at a stoplight it ttake off, then along second gear it wont get going,like its plugged up I have to ease into it and drive off the line to pickup speed. I replaced the icp 2 weeks ago and cleaned the pigtail and it ran fine until now, filters were a month ago and oil change when I did the ICP. I have no way to tell you any readings, i have a tester, but not the best . I get the cam sensor code in the morning when I try to start it, might be because it keeps stalling, at one point I sprayed WD-40 in the filter and it kicked over enough to keep it running until it warms up. unemployed so money is tight

 

Sorry to hear about your headaches, they can test your patience. You need to start with codes. Honestly, without knowing codes, it's a guessing game. Lots of nationwide parts store will check codes for free.

 

I do have a code reader just not a good one and I'm not throwing codes

 

I know you said money is tight and I am sorry for your troubles, but when purchasing a truck like that purchase number 2 should have been an AE so you have a good diagnostic tool.

With that being said is there anyone in the area that you trust and is good with the 6.0, Im not sure how much you know, or can do, but without a good diag tool for these things your pretty much SOL.

There is a thread in the tech folder that is labeld no start I would start there and see if you get anything.

Unfortunatley it could be any number of things, if you werent all the way across the country I would look at it for you and get you going again.

Sarge

 

I'm wondering if you've got an injector striction or glow plug issues? Just for the sake of discussion, what weight oil are you using? Since you've got an '03, the block heater cord should still be on the frame behind the passenger side fog light. Might try plugging that in for a couple of hours to see if the truck starts. If so, I'd start looking towards glow plugs or FICM. It doesn't have to be below freezing before you have issues with weak glow plugs. You need heat & compression for a diesel engine to fire.

You can pick up a ScanGauge II through AutoZone or Amazon for about $160 if you can't afford to shell out the cash for an AutoEngnuity. It will allow you to see engine specific codes and some live data (EOT, ECT, FICM voltage). Just because the secondary filter housing was full of fuel doesn't mean the injectors are getting enough pressure to function properly. You'll need to plumb a gauge into the test port on the side of the secondary to confirm you have a minimum of 45psi of fuel at all times (60-65 is the preferred number). Not knowing where in CA you are...you might check and see if there is someone near you that could help you out:

Southern CA Chapter:
California, Southern Chapter - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Northern CA Chapter:
California, Northern Chapter - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

As Sarge already suggested, there's a "no start" thread in the tech folder that could help you troubleshoot your way out of this.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html

 

Might be good idea to check FICM as mentioned above. Here's the procedure. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=899444
Just need a dc volt meter, couple basic tools and a helper to turn key.

 

how would it run if it was bad fuel. I dont get it , it will start fine all day long once I get it started and it does feel like a miss in one of the cylinders but the not wanting to start in the morning?? I will see what I can do thanks

 

You may have a dead cylinder (the truck will start/drive on 7 cylinders)...the hard/won't start issue maybe because of another cylinder is going down. You need to check for codes and see if you've got contribution/balance codes. At least check to make sure the wiring to the injectors is not loose or chaffed (rubbed bare).

If it was bad fuel (water) could be water getting introduced into the engine after sitting overnight. Wouldn't hurt to drain your HFCM (on frame rail under driver's door) to see if you've actually got diesel or something else in your fuel system.

 

It takes a certain type of code reader to pull codes off one of these . You very well could have and do have codes on it you just can't read them . Try auto zone or advance they do it for free . Like i said your code reader will probably not read them .

 

The thing with these trucks are its SO Electronicaly Controlled and a Presision Machine if we just try to guess at it you could end up spending 1000s


Looks like your out in Steve B or CJ69 (Mike) area maybe one of those guys could scan it for you

We could check it with a DVM all sensor relays info to PCM in volt reading just our gauges convert to Pressure or temp or whatever reading we want makes it easy and fast

Plus DTC or Codes can Help

Do you have a DVM??????

 

what part of calif. ? I'm in the north bay

 

will test the FICM TOMORROW ,thing is I shouldn't run the block heater tonight if I need the motor cold.A friend is coming over to help with the numbers , I noticed what looks like water from the degas bottle must have leaked from a line, you can tell thats what it is and it leaked on the FICM. You know I'm ganna check the two injector lines I disconnected when replacing the ICP, to make sure they are connected correct.
The FICM is the something I can check so I will be finding out in the morning. didn't know the scangage can give all the readings you people talk about on this site so I will be getting one, consider it an investment

Bakersfield ca.