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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Damn. Those look nice! I can't wait to see how they perform. Jan thank you for getting this done!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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Jan, from the pictures it looks like the quality of the materials and workmanship are on a whole different level than any gasket I have dealt with. They look really nice! It is interesting that the fire ring is exactly circular whereas the stock gasket has a lobe to one side... is the diameter larger on the performance gaskets? Are these stock thickness? I am really excited to see how these work out.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 88 Ford IDI
Damn. Those look nice! I can't wait to see how they perform. Jan thank you for getting this done!
You are welcome guys, some of you helped me, now it is time to do something for the platform. It is just the bigining, more to come, I have it for only a month here.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford F834
Jan, from the pictures it looks like the quality of the materials and workmanship are on a whole different level than any gasket I have dealt with. They look really nice! It is interesting that the fire ring is exactly circular whereas the stock gasket has a lobe to one side... is the diameter larger on the performance gaskets? Are these stock thickness? I am really excited to see how these work out.
Yes, the firerings are larger, so it would seal, and also they are wider on the headside, the ears are different, but match the tracing, we tried to have as much seal surface around the ears we could get, as I read somewhere, that is the weak place where water has the tendency to drip when cold. Might need a little silicone around just for peace of mind, gaskets should be the stock thickness, 2mm.

Now when I save some money I try the different thickness, I am quite busy lately and ugly bills came. What thickness should we need for decompresing the engine? I think we need two thicknesses, one for 6.9, the other for 7.3. The problem is it can not be made of the reinz extreme, but regular material and it would be the sanwich construction, steel, thin layer of the gasket stuff, steel, thin layer of gasket stuff and steel over it again. Stainless firerings the same design as this new gasket. The beauty would be it is reversible process. No piston shaving involved.

I will send the gaskets to Justin today, and we will see. It is just the first set, might need some changes, I am tempted to just take a head down on my spare engine so I could mock up things, but I am busy as hell lately, still recovering the overal cost of the truck shippment.

More to come....
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 05:21 PM
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i am taking my 7.3 apart this winter. hope these will be ready when i do. keep up the good work.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier(and more reliable) to just decompress the engine by shaving a few thou off the end of the pistons?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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Jan, they look beautiful!... I was showing off your pics this weekend...

Cant wait to get my hands on them!
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier(and more reliable) to just decompress the engine by shaving a few thou off the end of the pistons?
Just that extra insurance Rob... My crappy ebay gaskets are holding for now, but id gladly put a set in my engine that I knew were going to hold some stuff... Besides, its cheaper to buy a set of $300 gaskets than milling and coating a set of pistons...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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Rob the beauty of thicker gaskets would be u do not need to mill the pistons, take the engine apart. Yes shaving pistons is better way, but for folks that do not have the ability to do so the thicker gasket would be the way. Plus it is reversible. I think it is worth the try.
I am also thinking of making the exhaust manifold gaskets from the reinz extreme, as it should be very easy and should hold forever.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
Jan, they look beautiful!... I was showing off your pics this weekend...

Cant wait to get my hands on them!
I am going to send them today, as yesterday I took off the tanks from the Ford and found the saddle tank rusted through, pick up tubes both gone and senders damaged. I have to drive the hell truck to Prague. I will pack them in stretch foil, in between laminate floor tiles and give it a good wrap by tape. I will use regular air mail post, which is like 20 days, but usually quicker, I can insure the package. It will probably be around 80 dollars.The DHL wants 250 bucks, I do not think we are in such a hurry.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
Just that extra insurance Rob... My crappy ebay gaskets are holding for now, but id gladly put a set in my engine that I knew were going to hold some stuff...
With the thinner ones, I totally agree. Once you get them all figured out, I'll probably pick up a set when I pull heads off one of my engines.

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Besides, its cheaper to buy a set of $300 gaskets than milling and coating a set of pistons...
That's true, I suppose...

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Rob the beauty of thicker gaskets would be u do not need to mill the pistons, take the engine apart. Yes shaving pistons is better way, but for folks that do not have the ability to do so the thicker gasket would be the way. Plus it is reversible. I think it is worth the try.
Those are good points. That's why I asked.

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I am also thinking of making the exhaust manifold gaskets from the reinz extreme, as it should be very easy and should hold forever.
When you get those figured out, if you can make them for a reasonable cost I'll be interested in a set or two.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 10:11 PM
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The thicker you go, they more likely they are to blow, then again, uber gaskets. I wonder at what point it will mess with bolt alignment and valvetrain?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 11:55 PM
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The thicker you go, they more likely they are to blow, then again, uber gaskets. I wonder at what point it will mess with bolt alignment and valvetrain?
I know that Mike, that is why we have to try it, we thought of making the gasket 2.5mm thick which would corespond to 0.030 shaving I believe. The new gaskets are 2mm thick. I do not think the extra .5 mm would mess the valvetrain or anything, but yes the question is will they hold the boost. I have to sit down with the guy and come up with some sandwich design with sheets of metal and sealing layers.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 12:14 AM
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When you get those figured out, if you can make them for a reasonable cost I'll be interested in a set or two.[/QUOTE]

I am working on it Rob, I have to take the exhaust manifold on my spare engine down to get the trace of the surface. Curently I am off the road with my truck as both tanks out.

All the parts I am researching go to Justin and when he proofs them they will be distributed via his company under his label.

I would love to have him as a neighbour, I am the same nature as he is. When somebody says it cant be done, it is the challenge for me to proof it can be done. Everybody said you can not build entire house in one person, well then I am an example that you can. No company was here even a single minute, I managed to do everything by myself.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 12:29 AM
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If this works out I'll pick up a couple of sets as well for when it's time to rebuild and turbo my engines
 
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