I'm going to give it a try. I am only 2 miles from a station that has it. Sounds to good to be true. I will put in half a tank to test.

Tech Sheet
http://dieselhpr.com/assets/media/Di...cification.pdf

 

What got me was the fact it is clear as water and has almost no smell to it whatsoever

 

Sounds good, please bring the cetane to Virginia.. we are stuck down near 40 without adding our own additives

 

2.75 gallon. It was at a 76 station it was clearly marked as what it was. The handle was green and said hpr diesel. I put in 16 gallons I did add PM 22. I will give it some time and report back.

 

What does HPR stand for and does Ford have a position on this fuel?
Randy

 

Read all about it
Propel Diesel HPR
http://dieselhpr.com/assets/media/DieselHPR_Fuel_Specification.pdf

Currently 2.49/gal in my location

 

The fuel worked like normal Diesel. Truck acted the same as always.
7000 pound TT outside temp average 115 degree's. I was on the s2 in san diego and imperial county. Really happy everything worked.

I asked the company for the BTU per gallon and did not receive a answer. I think the mileage is lower, not sure.

Ford really needs to make a override on the temp sensor that shuts down the truck. That was in the back of my mind. You could really get hurt without some kind of override.

 

Donovan, the latest recall flash is "supposed" to take care of that. The jury seems to still be out on it though.

 

Just completed a 850 mile round trip from SoCal to St George, UT running straight HPR in my 15 6.7 CCDRW 4X4 3:73 gears, not towing, cruising at 70-75 truck returned 16.7 MPG, with Archoil fuel additive. Anybody else have any results?

 

I have a Edge insight I use to monitor Regens.
I have seen no difference in performance towing or not towing. What I have seen is a lower temp for passive regens and lower accumulation of soot. This has extended length between regens. The length of Regens slowly improved from 120 to 200 miles. The Station is about a mile away from where I work so it works for me and is about 5 cents cheaper then my other station. The truck seems to run smother on start up when cold. I used ford PM 22 with every fill. I am still testing it.

On MPG it seems about the same.

Side note
Still works as a good weed killer.

 

I've got an IDI but I have been using this stuff for around 2000 miles and it burns real clean no smoke EVER, engine is a bit quieter, but gas mileage is down by about 2 mpgs. I add some opti-lube for lubricity, and it is about 20-30 cents cheaper per gallon here which is why I'm using it. People on some RAM diesel forums have experienced similar results in all their different types of engines.
After this trial period I think I'm gonna use a blend of this and regular summer blend Diesel, as this Bosch letter suggests...

Quote from Cumminsforum.com

Below is What I got from Bosch. I am sure from the way they talked they have no testing of their own. All from on paper info. The HPR company did say on the phone it is good down to -40f with no gelling. It is not Bio diesel according to them, much more refined.
16.5 is not bad for "real" mileage on a lot of city driving. My driving was mostly flat hwy at about 55mph. I agree I seems it is very clean. Where do you buy yours?


Dear Mr. Duncan,



I have spoken with our fuels experts here in the US and the Bosch position is as follows:



· The ‘Diesel HPR’ is a brand name Propel Fuels Inc. has coined for the NESTE Oil Hydroprocessed seed oil (mainly palm oil) product they call NExBTL. https://www.neste.com/na/en



· This is nearly a 100% paraffinic hydrocarbon material. it has some nice qualities (high Cetane Number, good stability characteristics, virtually no aromatics, et al) but also some significant deviations (lower density, potential cold flow waxing characteristics, et al) relative to conventional Diesel fuel which Bosch products are released for.



· The statement that the fuel meets the ASTM D975 petroleum diesel specification is not completely accurate. They meet most of the specification, but not all of the specification.



· When blended with conventional Diesel we see little concern (even perhaps at blends up to 30 or 50%) because paraffinic hydrocarbons are naturally part of refined petroleum Diesel fuel.



· Bosch does however have some concerns regarding lubricity and its responsiveness to common lubricity improver additives. Refer to notes in the NESTE website regarding lubricity.



Bottom-line: Paraffinic hydroprocessed seed oils (like ‘HPR’) hold promise as supplement to the Diesel pool as blends. Bosch does have concerns for use as a neat fuel (100% blend) and without sufficient validation testing, Bosch cannot guarantee there will not be any performance or reliability issues with our fuel injection systems.


Best Regards,

Ilidio Serra



Robert Bosch LLC
Manager, Technical Service Support (AA/SNA9.2)
2800 S. 25th Avenue - Broadview, IL 60155 USA
Bosch worldwide

Phone: 1 (708) 865-5392
Fax: 1 (708) 865-5579

ilidio.serra@us.bosch.com

 

I've been running about 2800miles on HPR alone in the past 3 months since the station is on my daily route and it runs about $0.15~$0.20 cheaper per gallon.

Looks like my running average MPG's are down about a consistent hand-calculated 0.5~1mpg compared to regular D2 for the same driving habits and routes.

It smells just as bad, it idles a little quieter, and it seems to smoke a little less.

Their advertising states it has higher energy density than regular biodiesel, but makes no comparison with regular fossil D2.