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Old 08-05-2015, 02:37 PM
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Diesel HPR?

Just out of curiosity has anyone else ran Diesel HPR in their 6.7? Notice any benefits from running it over regular #2?
 
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Never heard of it. What is it?
 
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Propel Diesel HPR
Looks like it's only in Cali for now.
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California has so many more regulations, over and above federal regs which is why fuel in that state costs so much more.
 
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if its sold in Cali , made for cali then I am sure we don't want it...
 
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It's being marketed thru Propel Fuels with a 75 Cetane rating, 2.59/gal which is the same price as regular Diesel in my area. I put 40 gals in my aux tank so its slowly mixing in with the other CA fuel. I have been using their 20% Bio for a long time they have a great product at reasonable prices. Bio performs just as well as straight diesel in my usage for power and mileage.
 
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Originally Posted by chadjones99
if its sold in Cali , made for cali then I am sure we don't want it...
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Next time I'm in Berkeley I'll buy a tank and let you know what I think.
 
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This is Texas we run our diesels on Hopes, Dreams, and Cattle Blood.... oh, and Ford Diesel Additives.
 
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This is Texas we run our diesels on Hopes, Dreams, and Cattle Blood.... oh, and Ford Diesel Additives.
Sounds good on paper.

Almost sounds too good to me true. Lots more cetane = more power. Cleaner burning = less regens? Same price or less than current diesel.

There has got the be a "but" hidden somewhere.

Does it cause excessive wear? Less lubricity? Something?
 
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Its only negative is that it has little to no lubrication properties and it is an unwritten must that you use additives to make up for this. Buddy who's been using it for a few tanks says he's seen a 2 mpg jump with it since switching from regular #2. I imagine it leads to fewer regens as well in newer trucks.
 
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Originally Posted by Ford4Life7.3
Its only negative is that it has little to no lubrication properties and it is an unwritten must that you use additives to make up for this. Buddy who's been using it for a few tanks says he's seen a 2 mpg jump with it since switching from regular #2. I imagine it leads to fewer regens as well in newer trucks.
Sounds like this new fuel with some Opti-Lube XPD or XL would be a nice combination.
 
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Originally Posted by Ford4Life7.3
Its only negative is that it has little to no lubrication properties and it is an unwritten must that you use additives to make up for this. Buddy who's been using it for a few tanks says he's seen a 2 mpg jump with it since switching from regular #2. I imagine it leads to fewer regens as well in newer trucks.
Don't know where you got that you need additives for lubrication, did'nt read the thru the link here is a quote
Performance

Performance formulated Diesel HPR has a 75 cetane rating, 40% higher than regular diesel, for smoother combustion and a better ride. Diesel HPR burns cleaner and more efficiently, which means more power and torque for your rig. And unlike biodiesel, Diesel HPR provides uncompromised cold weather performance. Diesel HPR is additized to provide excellent lubricity in all driving conditions and exceeds ULSD lubricity specification.
 
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Don't know where you got that you need additives for lubrication, did'nt read the thru the link here is a quote
Performance

Performance formulated Diesel HPR has a 75 cetane rating, 40% higher than regular diesel, for smoother combustion and a better ride. Diesel HPR burns cleaner and more efficiently, which means more power and torque for your rig. And unlike biodiesel, Diesel HPR provides uncompromised cold weather performance. Diesel HPR is additized to provide excellent lubricity in all driving conditions and exceeds ULSD lubricity specification.

Here is where I got that conclusion from
( Biomass based diesel vs biodiesel - PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum Post #15 specifically) There is a lot of info in this thread about it, and a lot of specs on the fuel comparing it to bio and regular d2.

"The downside is LUBRICITY. In the US diesel fuel has to have an HFRR of less than 520 micron. In Europe its less than 460 micron. While biodiesel has very good lubricity (less than 300 micron) the hydrotreated fuel is much worse... 640 micron. The manufacturer has to put lubricity additives in the fuel in order for it to meet the ASTM D975 standard in the US of less than 520 micron wear scar. I would suggest using a lubricity additive with this fuel just to be sure (TCW3, WVO, SVO etc)."


Most people run additives anyway, so it doesn't much bother me. But with that said, as far as the pro's and con's, it seems to me there really isn't a downside to running it especially since its a bit cheaper here.
 
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I may also add that other articles I've read that mentioned the lack of lubrication did not mention whether it was before or after the factory adds things to meet the HFRR standards mentioned.
 


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