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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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Diesel Fuel

First time diesel owner. Just purchased a 2017 F250. The gas station where I buy my fuel has 2 fuels, clear and dyed diesel. What's the difference?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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Dyed is for off road use only, cheaper because .gov doesnt collect road tax but hefty fines if caught for running it on road. Dye leaves traces for a long time
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
Dyed is for off road use only, cheaper because .gov doesnt collect road tax but hefty fines if caught for running it on road. Dye leaves traces for a long time
x2. Don't mess with the off road diesel for your truck.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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So there really is no difference, just the dye to differentiate between taxable and non taxable diesel. Dyed diesel is what you'd run in a farm tractor or construction equipment like a Bobcat or Excavator.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Dyed diesel will not harm your engine. As mentioned it's just an identifier for taxes.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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Deisel Fuel

Thanks for the advice guys. Greatly appreciated
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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I realize that red fuel is supposed to be fine to run in our trucks (off road), however, has anyone heard of problems from running it? My friend has a 2016 Duramax and has a large farm. Every time he puts red fuel in it, the truck throws codes and its off to the dealership. They've told him it'd be best no to use it anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this?
 
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That sounds nuts.
 
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I know loads of farmers who rand dyed diesel in their trucks for long times and never had an issue. Given most of those truck where pre 2000. Not many farmers out here that have new trucks. They do have 15 old trucks and each has its own personality like milk crate seats or only two gears.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RJC2
I realize that red fuel is supposed to be fine to run in our trucks (off road), however, has anyone heard of problems from running it? My friend has a 2016 Duramax and has a large farm. Every time he puts red fuel in it, the truck throws codes and its off to the dealership. They've told him it'd be best no to use it anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this?
I would be more inclined to think that the fuel is contaminated with something. Dyed fuel is simply that...fuel with dye in it. I know where I live there are thousands of trucks running on it with no issue.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RJC2
I realize that red fuel is supposed to be fine to run in our trucks (off road), however, has anyone heard of problems from running it? My friend has a 2016 Duramax and has a large farm. Every time he puts red fuel in it, the truck throws codes and its off to the dealership. They've told him it'd be best no to use it anymore.
Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this?
The issue here is possibly sulfur content. Red diesel is the same as normal diesel, just dyed as mentioned above. I do not think he would have access to low sulfur, but if the red fuel is low sulfur, these emissions trucks prefer ultra low sulfer diesel hence the codes that are most likely emissions system related.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 05:41 AM
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He has used what we call "farm fuel" for years in his 2005 Duramax without issue. (he's a GM guy) He's not happy about this problem. He also had problems with the DEF system. GM trucks are apparently designed to run on GM brand DEF which he says is expensive. He's thinking of buying a Ram next due to these issues.
Sorry OP, I didn't mean to derail your thread, however, this is related.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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My buddy ran dyed fuel occasionally in his 2011 SD, then he had the good old HPFP failure. The dealership and his insurance company gave him a ton of grief because of the fuel he used. He eventually fought it out with his insurance and it ended up being covered, almost 12K I think. I know the fuel had nothing to do with the HPFP failure, but the dealership and insurance are just looking for ways to not pay. Just a heads up.
 
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Originally Posted by Super-Truck
The issue here is possibly sulfur content. Red diesel is the same as normal diesel, just dyed as mentioned above. I do not think he would have access to low sulfur, but if the red fuel is low sulfur, these emissions trucks prefer ultra low sulfer diesel hence the codes that are most likely emissions system related.
Dyed fuel is also ULSD. Most modern off-highway equipment requires it to comply with emissions. My 2013 Kubota requires ULSD, and it has run just fine on off-road since new.

I believe the fuel tanker only brings clear diesel. Red dye is added to the off-road underground tanks at the fuel station.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RJC2
He has used what we call "farm fuel" for years in his 2005 Duramax without issue. (he's a GM guy) He's not happy about this problem. He also had problems with the DEF system. GM trucks are apparently designed to run on GM brand DEF which he says is expensive. He's thinking of buying a Ram next due to these issues.
Sorry OP, I didn't mean to derail your thread, however, this is related.
DEF is DEF, RJC2...just water and ammonia (urea) mixed at the same exact ratio. GM trucks can run any brand they want without issue.
 
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