I heard from someone today that you cant run dyed diesel in these new 6.4's? Is that true?

 

Dyed diesel has a higher sulfer content and these new diesels require ULSD.....if you run LSD or Dyed Diesel it will damage the emissions on the truck. Anyways dyed diesel is for off HWY vehicles such as tractors etc..

 

False, If your dyed diesel is non taxed ULSD you can run it. Dyed diesel is legal on road fuel for tax exempt users.

 

Thats what this person was telling me that it would damage emissions on the truck.

 

At least in the USA, its a myth that all dyed fuel is high sulfer.
Dyed fuel means the taxes have not been paid.
Dyed fuel is legal on road fuel for tax exempt operators such as state and local DOTs and public school districts, surely no one thinks those entities are not going to buy new trucks.
Be it dyed or undyed the 6.4 Powerstroke must use ULSD.

 

Explain to me why it says dyed Off road Diesel? I personnaly have only seen construction equipment, farm equipment, and Log trucks fill up on that stuff. Those vehicles are used mainly off road/off HWY/interstate.

As stated above, If you have a POV Diesel you can only use ULSD or LSD if your diesel is an older none particulate filter diesel. Dyed diesel is illegal to use in a POV.

 

How do these operators get a tax exemption and show it to the officer that just checked their tank?


I for one have never heard this. Just looking for some information on this. I've been told that taxed fuel used for offroad purposes is able to get the taxed money back at the end of the year.

 

I take it you mean why is the pump is labeled "dyed Off road diesel"? Becuase for the large majority of fuel users it is for off road use only, that may or may not mean its low sulfer or high sulfer fuel.
Technically all high sulfer fuel is dyed, but not all dyed fuel is high sulfer fuel.
Tax exempt users can legally use dyed low and ULSD fuel on the public highways.

 

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Dyed fuel means the taxes have not been paid.
Dyed fuel is legal on road fuel for tax exempt operators such as state and local DOTs and public school districts

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"How do these operators get a tax exemption and show it to the officer that just checked their tank?


I for one have never heard this. Just looking for some information on this. I've been told that taxed fuel used for offroad purposes is able to get the taxed money back at the end of the year."




The officers know who is tax exempt and who isn't, in Iowa, vehicles with Official State, County, City or School plates are exempt.

I am employed by a public school district who operates a fleet of diesel buses, we are are tax exempt and legally use about 100 gallons of dyed low sulfer fuel per day. We have our own bulk storage and our supplier brings us the same fuel that he delivers to the railroad and every farmer customer of his. Some of those customers may think they are getting high sulfer fuel but in reality its dyed low sulfer. And yes, if we have to buy clear taxed fuel while we are away on a trip we can file forms and get the tax money rebated to us at the end of the year.

 

Thanks.....I wasnt sure exactly what it specified.

 

up here in canada farmers put sitckers on the plates that say farm, then you can run the dyed fuel all day long and be fine with it, not sure how it works in the states but that purple fuel i saw was real tasty lookin haha, like some delicious juice

 

You have to look at the pump label as the red dye fuel could be ULSD, LSD, or non-highway fuel. See below.

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"Red Dye" in Diesel Fuel has historically been used to identify fuels that have been formulated for non-highway or off-road use (sulfur content above 500 ppm). With the introduction of Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel fuel (ULSD), the EPA has eliminated the "Red Dye" requirement and instead developed new pump labels that are required to enable fuel users to identify the sulfur content of diesel fuel. Refer to the Attachment for a graphic of the fuel pump labels. <o></o>

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It should be noted that the IRS has required the use of a similar "Red Dye" for a completely different purpose, which is to identify diesel fuel that is non-taxed. This has created the possibility to have a Red Dye fuel that meets highway requirements, which has caused confusion in the market place. It is no longer possible to determine fuel quality based on the presence or absence of Red Dye.<o></o>

 

My bulk distributor here in Phoenix supplies me with "dyed" ULSD & gives me a "use a lubricity additive on pre 2007 manufactured engines" disclaimer, I am still looking for a suitable red dye remover since Arizona now does random roadside tank dips on all diesel powered vehicles regardless of GVW anyone have any ideas?

 

Dont use the red dyed diesel if your not supposed to...I know its cheap but the fine that goes with useing it is not worth it.

 

My uncle told me a story, that he remembers a neighbour of his waaaaayyyyy back in the day, leave dyed fuel out in the sun, in clear carbouys, and that was to remove the dye from it. I dont know if that is true or not though.