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Jun 23, 2015 | 12:41 PM

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chasing gremlins-electrical

have replaced icm, coil, and distributor. runs fine when spout jumper is removed but reconnect seems to disable starting. have code 213. runs sometimes and then cuts out and dies but always starts right back up well most of the time.

Jun 23, 2015 | 08:59 PM

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on no starts we use to pull the spout out and if it fired up the stator in the dist. was to blame,The distributor came with a new stator? You may have to do some pinpoint test and find out if the processor is going. what is code 213,pip signal?

Jun 25, 2015 | 08:50 AM

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213, means spout signal failure

Jun 25, 2015 | 08:56 AM

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when truck first starts it runs fine. as it warms up it starts to misfire and then dies but it usually starts right back up.

Jun 25, 2015 | 08:58 AM

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just how would you go about testing the pcm to see if it is going out?

Jun 25, 2015 | 09:09 AM

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If you follow the code 213 it usually leads to an ECM failure, and when you unplug it it runs so the computer is nor grounding out the ignition and has no control of the timing or spark. You said you replaced the ECM right? wonder is you have a short to ground on the pip wire, a rub thru or something along those lines. Time to check for a short to ground, test light to positive post of battery and then to the end of the pip connector, should not get a bright light. If you do then you have a short in the harness somewhere. I'm not to sure on these replacement computers either. I have had bad ones right out of the box. I would trace the PIP wire all the way back to the PCM, make sure you have good continuity through the whole circuit. If I remember right it's a pink wire? Happy hunting

Jul 7, 2015 | 10:46 AM

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well it looks like I need to replace the pcm in my truck. went to parts store and said need reman pcm. my pcm is an 12a650-apa but counter person says he has a 12a650 arb and it supercedes the apa. what now?, not sure what is going on.