external trans filter
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Mountain Pass
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external trans filter
I just saw the video on changing out the trans pan and filter to an '08 model. Was just wondering can the external filter be taken out or service after the change? Just leave the filter out of the canister.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Lots of people install both full flow and bypass filters on their engine. Both filters cannot do the same job.
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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I don't see any need for replacing the cartridge filter when installing the updated pan filter.
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I guess that ends that argument!
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I have been curious why the push towards the internal filter. I wouldn't doubt the 6.0 outnumbers the 6.4 3:1 in total production and with so many 6 liters with hundreds of thousands of miles with the stock toilet paper filter it can hardly be an issue.
Just sayin'
Not much space on a 6.4 for the TP filter either...
Josh
Just sayin'
Not much space on a 6.4 for the TP filter either...
Josh
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If what you say is true than the original bypass must have been of a really crappy design. It's almost never turned on AND it doesn't filter down very fine?
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Mark seems to have a habit of posting "facts" somewhat out of context and then running away without explaining.
High filtering in the trans is more about saving expensive fluid and making it last longer than making the transmission last longer. A lot of (older) automatic transmissions don't have much more than a screen to filter out chunks and a magnet. There is no combustion in there anyway so there isn't as much to filter out.
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F357 your posts continue to be inaprorpiate to other users. I take exception to the way you respond to others. You have only been a member since Dec of 2014 and you have 164 posts. Don't you think it would be more appropriate to be a bit more respectful. Especially when it's Mark for example. If you can't say something nice, try not saying anything. Just sayin. To the mod, if your watching, this post can be shut down now if you like.
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F357 your posts continue to be inaprorpiate to other users. I take exception to the way you respond to others. You have only been a member since Dec of 2014 and you have 164 posts. Don't you think it would be more appropriate to be a bit more respectful. Especially when it's Mark for example. If you can't say something nice, try not saying anything. Just sayin. To the mod, if your watching, this post can be shut down now if you like.
To be honest I don't like your posts either. But you're free to post them. There is no reason to close this thread. Valid questions have been asked.
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No, I don't remember the micron rating on either filter. I didn't work on the filters. I do remember talking with the engineer responsible for both filters. He told me that the new internal filter had a lower micron rating than the external filter. You are welcome to believe that or not. I really don't care either way.
I don't remember saying there have been problems with the solenoids. Where did I say that? Sometimes I have said that a problem described could be a sticking solenoid. Better filtration will help with that.
I don't remember saying there have been problems with the solenoids. Where did I say that? Sometimes I have said that a problem described could be a sticking solenoid. Better filtration will help with that.
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I'm not able to find any good ratings with google for either the pan filter or the bypass filter. I see some vague references to the bypass filter being 2 micron but I can't really be sure. I would be sure the in pan filter isn't 2 micron.
If the stock bypass filter is indeed not a very small rating, then yes, get rid of it, but, you (or anybody) would still be well served by an aftermarket bypass type filter in the cooler line. (even if it doesn't get all the fluid)