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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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Glow plug and airflow problem

I've got 2 problems with my loveley truck. Does anybody have experience with those?

1. In summer she starts up without a problem. Now that it's gotten colder it takes me 30-50 tries!!! I'm thinking something with the glow plugs or glow plug sensors is wrong. The glow time seems to be the same as in summer. Any ideas?

2. Cabin air. The heat and AC still work but there is barely any air coming through the vents. it's almost like a fan broke. The faster I drive the more air I get through the vents. Where could I check if there is a fan?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Relay

Start with the glow plug relay. Just because they click doesn't mean they work, ask me how I know.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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Heater

Next clean out the coil for the Freon, it mitt be blocking the air flow. They get filler with dog hair etc..
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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I watched some youtube vids on that. They put a volt meter to the relay and it had to be the same Vs on both sides. does that sound about right?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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it takes me 30-50 tries!!! I'm thinking something with the glow plugs or glow plug sensors is wrong. The glow time seems to be the same as in summer. Any ideas
That's way too many tries! If you are calling the WTS indicator light a glow plug sensor, that is incorrect. The WTS indicator light is more of a dummy light, and has no bearing on how long the glow plugs are fired. Depending on conditions, your glow plugs can stay on for well over a minute when you turn the key. Try leaving the key on longer, at least a minute, before trying to fire it up. See if that makes a difference.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wardogjohn

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2. Cabin air. The heat and AC still work but there is barely any air coming through the vents. it's almost like a fan broke. The faster I drive the more air I get through the vents. Where could I check if there is a fan?
Check your alternator output. Sounds like your not getting enough juice until the rpm's increase. Go to O'Riely's, Walmart or Autozone - they will test it for free.

You could also tap your fan blower with a hammer to see if that will get it to increase speed when air is barely coming through. It is located on the passenger side right next to the fire wall.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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@Bonanza35 Didn't get to try the relays yet because I don't have a multimeter. I did however check the fan that blows air inside, the one just behind the dashboard on the passenger side, and as I suspected it is not working. I took it out and it started working but quit again once I've put it back in. Is it shorting out? will a new fan unit fix the problem? And also there is another relay right next to it. What is that for?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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@WhiteBuffalo I did tap it but without change. Then I took it apart because I suspected that something may block the fan. Nothing seemed to block it and after connecting it again it worked for a short while but then quit again. Any Ideas?
 
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@Binuya The alternator output is fine. I did leave it on longer and it seemed to help. I'll still check the relays though. Besides the relay on to of the block there is another realy on the passenger side next to the cabin fan. what is that for?
 
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@WhiteBuffalo I did tap it but without change. Then I took it apart because I suspected that something may block the fan. Nothing seemed to block it and after connecting it again it worked for a short while but then quit again. Any Ideas?
Sounds like the fan blower/motor needs to be replaced. Sometimes the hammer tap will get you by for a short time.

What's the alternator output like?
 
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Here is a good sight that explains the glow plug system and how to test it:

https://sites.google.com/site/woodnt...ow-plug-system

Basically, test the GPR (relay), ohm the glow plugs, check the battery voltage, watch the voltage change as the GPR activates & turnes off.
 
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