445 build
Laughing Gas
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From: Victoria (North Saanich)
I went with the regular lifters. Barry talked me out of it, said you give up adjustment and $100 and get nothing useful in return - meaning it will spin up to 6,000, and anything above that is useless in a street ride.
Now, if it were a race build it would be different. You probably know, since you have one, the old 4WD trucks are not precision instruments. You point them and pray. I'm looking for 0 to 75 mph, because after that it is just a little too scary.
He is out of heads, so it will be a bit of a wait, but I hope I can get the bottom end in so we can get the block machined and the pistons fitted.
Now, if it were a race build it would be different. You probably know, since you have one, the old 4WD trucks are not precision instruments. You point them and pray. I'm looking for 0 to 75 mph, because after that it is just a little too scary.
He is out of heads, so it will be a bit of a wait, but I hope I can get the bottom end in so we can get the block machined and the pistons fitted.
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Cargo Master
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From: York, Pa
Your motor def going to be a little more racey than mine. I'm basicaly trying to accomplish the same thing you are. Did he say wether he had the flat top stuff I stock or not? Back when I waited forever for dished he made it sound like that was the only kind that took forever to get.
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From: PHX AZ
That's awesome! Now in 6 months when you get your parts you can start building too! I shouldn't say that I hope you get your stuff a little sooner.
Barry recommended the Quickfuel 780 for mine. He said it's more bang for the buck basically over the Holley. I haven't gotten much of a chance to look at them yet.
Barry recommended the Quickfuel 780 for mine. He said it's more bang for the buck basically over the Holley. I haven't gotten much of a chance to look at them yet.
When I bought the parts from Barry for another engine & he gave me a time line I told him if he could not have them by a certain date I was not interested.
It took much longer than date told but I had to keep the pressure on to get them.
Current build I wanted to use his heads but getting them in a timely manner was a issue I did not want to deal with. Bought the BBM's and had them in a week.
I have heard 6 months to a year for a engine once ordered . . I could never handle the stress. Just parts could be much sooner.
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Cargo Master
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From: York, Pa
I bought the 780 QF for my 418.
When I bought the parts from Barry for another engine & he gave me a time line I told him if he could not have them by a certain date I was not interested.
It took much longer than date told but I had to keep the pressure on to get them.
Current build I wanted to use his heads but getting them in a timely manner was a issue I did not want to deal with. Bought the BBM's and had them in a week.
I have heard 6 months to a year for a engine once ordered . . I could never handle the stress. Just parts could be much sooner.
When I bought the parts from Barry for another engine & he gave me a time line I told him if he could not have them by a certain date I was not interested.
It took much longer than date told but I had to keep the pressure on to get them.
Current build I wanted to use his heads but getting them in a timely manner was a issue I did not want to deal with. Bought the BBM's and had them in a week.
I have heard 6 months to a year for a engine once ordered . . I could never handle the stress. Just parts could be much sooner.
Laughing Gas
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From: Victoria (North Saanich)
I'm trying to reach him to ask a few questions. One concern I have is he suggested a 33-000-9F cam, which is what you posted. He told me it would have durations of 234 and 240 at 0.050 inches of lift, and lift of 594 and 598. After ordering it I came back to this thread and you had posted the label that came with your cam, which was a 33-000-9 and it was a smaller cam. You mentioned a mix up, but I'm not sure if it was CompCams on the grind or Barry's on what he said it was. I'd like to make sure I know what the spec is. I also forgot to specify that I need a gear for it for a stock distributor.
Still trying to get through.
Still trying to get through.
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Cargo Master
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From: York, Pa
Hmm I'm not sure there. My cam is def smaller than that. I wonder if the F has anything to do with it. I think the lift is only .556 both sides on mine.
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Laughing Gas
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From: Victoria (North Saanich)
I got tired of trying Barry, so I called Comp. The guy there said that 33-000-9F is the number for ALL Ford FE custom grinds, so it imparts NO information about the cam profile. This explains why you and I have the same number for two different cams.
I am still asking Barry for the specifics on the cam he is ordering for me because the order doesn't specify it.
I also need to get the right gear for a stock FE distributor.
I am still asking Barry for the specifics on the cam he is ordering for me because the order doesn't specify it.
I also need to get the right gear for a stock FE distributor.
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Cargo Master
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From: York, Pa
That makes more sense I guess on the part number. As for the distributor gear I still need one too. I wasn't too wild about the brass gear. If you find a steel gear let me know which one you get.
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From: Colville, Washington
Cam and gear
Hi, I think I can help on these two items. The actual lobe number is on the cam card, I think it showed 3308R/3309R? those are Comps lobe numbers. You can look up the lobe numbers on Comps website, it will list all the specs for them.
You want to use a STEEL distributor gear, the bronze ones wear too fast for street use. Comp, Crane, MSD, and Mallory are the ones I have heard of, or Comp has a composite gear that would work also. You need to make sure to get the correct ID gear for your distributor.
You want to use a STEEL distributor gear, the bronze ones wear too fast for street use. Comp, Crane, MSD, and Mallory are the ones I have heard of, or Comp has a composite gear that would work also. You need to make sure to get the correct ID gear for your distributor.
Laughing Gas
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From: Victoria (North Saanich)
Putt - thanks. I went back to Barry Rabotnick and confirmed the exact spec on the cam I have coming - 243/240 @ .050 and .594/.598 lift.
It is a bit confusing since Comp uses 33-009 for all FE custom grinds, Barry adds an "F" at the end to designate this specific grind.
I also ordered a melonized steel gear for the stock distributor.
It is a bit confusing since Comp uses 33-009 for all FE custom grinds, Barry adds an "F" at the end to designate this specific grind.
I also ordered a melonized steel gear for the stock distributor.
