Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Cel...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2014 | 01:01 AM
  #1  
kylek95's Avatar
kylek95
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Cel...

So 1995 460
it runs great but the check engine light is coming on showing code 173 for running too rich. So far i have replaced the o2, replaced a vacum thing (cant think of the name of it right now) and i replaced the tps. This is where it gets kinda trickey...Runs great but even when i unplug the o2 and run it around about 15 minutes into driving the light still comes on for the code 173 so is there another sensor somewhere that picks up / caculates the richness? Thanks
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2014 | 01:02 AM
  #2  
kylek95's Avatar
kylek95
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Oh and i forgot the fuel pressure is GOOD about 32psi at idle and 40i when you unplug vacum from the regulator.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2014 | 01:09 AM
  #3  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
WAG alert. T-stat issues, running too cold causing the EFI to stay in rich mode for warm up. Or temp sensor issues so it thinks it's cold but it ain't.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2014 | 01:21 AM
  #4  
kylek95's Avatar
kylek95
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Yep brand new 190 tsat and coolant temp sensor the needle sticks almost straight up on temp gague...any more ideas?
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2014 | 01:06 AM
  #5  
kylek95's Avatar
kylek95
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
SOMEBODY has had to have had this happen to then before????? The 173 code comes.on even when i clear the codes and run it around with the o2 unplugged. Anyone wanna take a stab at what it could be?
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:03 AM
  #6  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
Was there an "event" after which all this started?

Have you checked your connections, making sure the voltage from the O2 sensor is being read?

Does it have EGR? Checked that?

Checked for vacuum leaks everywhere, especially manifold to heads?

You are correct, this is a common problem.

Rough idle and running very rich - FSB Forums

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...le-idle-2.html

IAC was a problem. Different year, not sure how that translates to your truck or if you have an idle air control.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:12 AM
  #7  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
Forget the above unless this doesn't work. Purge solinoid, read on:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...172-173-a.html

Deeply analytical:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...ivability.html

Fuel pressure regulator:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ease-help.html
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2014 | 07:26 PM
  #8  
kylek95's Avatar
kylek95
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Checked just about everything else you listed. How would i check the o2 wireing and where because it goes on top of the transmission and i dont know where it goes from there. Also what should the voltage be? And sometimes when im driving it the light will flick off for like 30it secs. But with no change in preformance or and it did it 2 different times randomly.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:50 PM
  #9  
85e150's Avatar
85e150
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 34,466
Likes: 2,798
Club FTE Gold Member
Scroll down to "... Diagnosis"

What the Home Mechanic Needs to Know about O2 Sensors

More of the same:

http://densoautoparts.com/sites/defa...ing%20tips.pdf


Short version, between 0 and .9 volts.

The sensor wires go into the engine computer. Might be hard to trace or follow them.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ingram
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
Oct 6, 2017 10:05 PM
offrdmania
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Jan 26, 2016 06:38 PM
statetrooper
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Jan 29, 2012 09:34 PM
LukeRips
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
5
Dec 2, 2006 10:29 PM
bgblktruk
1978 - 1996 Big Bronco
1
Jun 10, 2002 08:28 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE