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...Gage....from crappy IL.
I just looked up Ammerman's Custom Exhaust...they look and sound really good.....When I wanted an exhaust on my V10 I took it to three places and they all said NO..one guy wouldn't touch it because I wanted Gibson...So I did it myself.
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Don't tell anyone, but Boise, Idaho is a great place to live and raise a family. If you like outdoor recreation, then this place rocks. A blue ribbon trout stream runs right through the middle of Boise State University and downtown Boise. It's not unusual to see someone catch a trout and then go to his dorm and cook it up. Then there's the blue Smurf Turf of course.Idaho can always use more good conservative Republicans moving to Idaho.
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3 valve V10s won't have long tubes due to the catalyst placement in the exhaust.
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Logistics Pro
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Pacesetter makes long tubes for 1/2 ton trucks with dual cats. I think it is also the small market for the V10.
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If there was such a small market for V10s, why are there companies supporting the 2 valve trucks that are almost 20 years old now, and have been making them close to the whole time? The feasibility of long tubes in a 3 valve just isn't there, otherwise they would have been made 10 years ago when those engines first appeared.
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From: Archer, Idaho
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My 07 F150 had a cat on each bank right after the manifolds. My 05 V10 had a cat on each bank right after the manifolds. Pacesetter makes long tubes for the F150 that do not fit the stock cats. You have to move them further back if there is room. Otherwise you have to buy aftermarket cats. They are not CARB approved. When you start moving Cats it gets difficult to get a CARB #. Most if not all of the headers for the V10 are CARB approved. My 05 had header like manifolds on it already. If there was such a market for 05 and newer headers the companies would be all over it. The market was there for the 99-04's because of the single cat and the headers actually did improve things. Probably easier to get CARB #'s as well. Shorties would be the only street legal option for the 05 and newer V10's.
Shorties will run ya $750 for little gain. Best to free up the exhaust and maybe a programmer.
Shorties will run ya $750 for little gain. Best to free up the exhaust and maybe a programmer.
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OK, so my Boise muffler shop ordered my JBA headers for my 2008 3V and they found 3 broken studs and broke 5 more trying to get them off. They had to weld onto the broken ends to extract. Then the passenger side of the headers went on fine but the driver side hit the frame and the motor mounts. That was last Thursday. Muffler shop called JBA and they said they would send another one as that "jig" must have gone over spec. Driver side finally arrived yesterday and was worse than the first one. Long and short is that my shop decided to true up my old manifolds and installed new and better bolts. According to JBA, the jig for the headers was made from a 2009 and thought the 2008 would be the same. Obviously not. So, I am back in business with my original manifolds. Runs great, but I would have liked to have seen what difference if any, with the headers. Oh well, maybe at 230k.
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My 07 F150 had a cat on each bank right after the manifolds. My 05 V10 had a cat on each bank right after the manifolds. Pacesetter makes long tubes for the F150 that do not fit the stock cats. You have to move them further back if there is room. Otherwise you have to buy aftermarket cats. They are not CARB approved. When you start moving Cats it gets difficult to get a CARB #. Most if not all of the headers for the V10 are CARB approved. My 05 had header like manifolds on it already. If there was such a market for 05 and newer headers the companies would be all over it. The market was there for the 99-04's because of the single cat and the headers actually did improve things. Probably easier to get CARB #'s as well. Shorties would be the only street legal option for the 05 and newer V10's.
Shorties will run ya $750 for little gain. Best to free up the exhaust and maybe a programmer.
Shorties will run ya $750 for little gain. Best to free up the exhaust and maybe a programmer.
The aftermarket manufacturers learned from when they had the 2V performance parts on the market years ago. Anyone whom payed attention noticed the the first couple years the 6.8l was offered the aftermarket did pretty coming out with parts for the 6.8l. From headers to supercharger kits. Quite a few of which were made a few years and then axed. The PSD and 5.4l made up the bulk of the orders.
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