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In my opinion, you are almost there. Now all you need to do is remove the FICM and send it to Ed. I don't believe that will fix the glow plugs, but it's a start (see what I just did there, sorry for the bad pun). The be sure to follow up with the rest of the suggestions on the form, batteries, alternator


Mr. Nobody, I checked the VLT while idling 14.1, I have cleaned the battery terminals and used a protective spray in addition to 'ringing' the battery post with felt. Is the VLT reading from my Scan Gauge II the output of my alternator or do I need to check it at the alternator?
 
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I guess I'm chopped liver LOL

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I kind of like chopped liver.lol
Well I don't and I do think Josh is ok.
So That makes him NOT chopped liver

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Could be wrong, but I don't believe that that is completely true - especially on the premium service. I guess I will check out the website - haven't been there in a long time.


Edit .............

Looks like the OEM service is as you said - he just replaces the out-of-spec components ($195 and $225). He upgrades components for the Premium ($325) and Ultra service ($425 for lifetime warranty).
"basically replacing any components tested that don't test out as if they were new"

This is the premium service. There are no guarantees that any components get replaced, only the ones that don't test out as if they are new.


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Originally Posted by F250W6.0
Mr. Nobody, I checked the VLT while idling 14.1, I have cleaned the battery terminals and used a protective spray in addition to 'ringing' the battery post with felt. Is the VLT reading from my Scan Gauge II the output of my alternator or do I need to check it at the alternator?
I'm just making sure that you don't just plop another FICM in just to find that your batts are bad, or your alternator. I do not believe that the scanguageII lies very often. Those look like good charging volts to me, but I suppose we shall see what the liver has to say.
 
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Originally Posted by F250W6.0
Scan Gauge shows No Codes and the VLT is 14.1 I am assuming that is good?
You could have the alternator tested more extensively, but 14.1v is good charging voltage.

If you have the opportunity to scan it with a code reader it may pick up a code that the ScanGauge2 couldn't.

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I'm just making sure that you don't just plop another FICM in just to find that your batts are bad, or your alternator. I do not believe that the scanguageII lies very often. Those look like good charging volts to me, but I suppose we shall see what the liver has to say.

Ok I see what you are saying now, forgive me I am a little slow on the uptake. Is it possible you suspect the glow plugs because of the fact that when I plug in the block heater I have no issues starting? The batteries are not new but are less than two years old and check 12.9 volts or better when key is off, using my meter to check voltage. Also is the VLT on SGII alternator output?
 
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You are picking up what I'm laying down. Heat has to come from somewhere, plugs or block heater.
 
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Plugging in the block heater retroactively heats up the FICM allowing it to somewhat work.

You could also use a good hair dryer or heat gun to achieve the same effect.

You do not have glow plug problems.

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Even better, look there, we just fixed your glow plug problem.....
 
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Originally Posted by F250W6.0

Ok I see what you are saying now, forgive me I am a little slow on the uptake. Is it possible you suspect the glow plugs because of the fact that when I plug in the block heater I have no issues starting? The batteries are not new but are less than two years old and check 12.9 volts or better when key is off, using my meter to check voltage. Also is the VLT on SGII alternator output?
That's exactly what I was thinking.

If the glow plugs and GPCM are good then the FICM may be the only issue.

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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Plugging in the block heater retroactively heats up the FICM allowing it to somewhat work.

You could also use a good hair dryer or heat gun to achieve the same effect.

You do not have glow plug problems.

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See what happens when your chopped liver.

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See what happens when your chopped liver.

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LOL Exactly, posting on FTE on the iPhone and it's always trying to turn JOSH in KOSH. Pisses me off.

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Originally Posted by F250W6.0

Ok I see what you are saying now, forgive me I am a little slow on the uptake. Is it possible you suspect the glow plugs because of the fact that when I plug in the block heater I have no issues starting? The batteries are not new but are less than two years old and check 12.9 volts or better when key is off, using my meter to check voltage. Also is the VLT on SGII alternator output?
VLT on SGII is battery and alternator output. Normally the OBDII port reads a bit low, so you're OK there.

Send Ed your FICM, Harry, and let him take care of it. This isn't someplace you want to go cheap on. All you can get around here are the Dorman FICM's and they suck. He's pretty dang quick on turn around time.
 
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