Cold Start making Block Heater a MUST
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From: Rudy, AR
Cold Start making Block Heater a MUST
- Ok, Heres the deal I know you guys probably get tired of giving all this advice to those uninformed like myself but here goes. When I plug in my block heater I have no problems starting my F-250 w/6.0. But if I do not plug it in if the ambient temperature is below 65 degrees it is a 'No Start' situation.Here is the info I gathered thanks to my ScanGaugeII and Eds' FICM Repair Intake Form.
- Key Off Drivers side battery 12.65 Passenger Side 12.84 volts
- KOEO Drivers Side Battery 11.98 Passenger Side 11.93 Volts
- KOEO FICM Output 32.0 volts
- During Cranking FICM 46.0 volts
- FICM while running cold 43.0 volts
- FICM while running cold at 2200RPM 34.5 Volts
- FICM while idling at Operating temperature 46.0 volts
I can buy a new FICM from my local automotive store$250.00. Looking forward to an education thank you one and all for the help.
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Below 45 volts at anytime and the FICM is toast.
Send the FICM to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair for repair
Josh
Send the FICM to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair for repair
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In my opinion, you are almost there. Now all you need to do is remove the FICM and send it to Ed. I don't believe that will fix the glow plugs, but it's a start (see what I just did there, sorry for the bad pun). The be sure to follow up with the rest of the suggestions on the form, batteries, alternator
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Below 45 volts at anytime and the FICM is toast.
Send the FICM to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair for repair
Josh
Send the FICM to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair for repair
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Is that my Best option? I only question it because of the cost. I know from reading all the post Ed knows his stuff. But was wondering if I might save some money by buying new one for $250.00
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In my opinion, you are almost there. Now all you need to do is remove the FICM and send it to Ed. I don't believe that will fix the glow plugs, but it's a start (see what I just did there, sorry for the bad pun). The be sure to follow up with the rest of the suggestions on the form, batteries, alternator
SO I have bad Glow plugs as well??
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Scan it for codes. Bad glow plugs should show up as DTC.
Check alternator output volts, or volts when engine is running.
It sounds like your FICM power side is defective, you can repair yourself or have it repaired.
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Check alternator output volts, or volts when engine is running.
It sounds like your FICM power side is defective, you can repair yourself or have it repaired.
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IMO new FICM's are made with the same components that often times fail. Yes, the soldering is also an issue that many have fixed themselves, but frequently the issue is component failure. That said, my opinion is that Ed's repair is the best option as he upgrades the critical components.
Listen to advice above ^ on glowplugs.
Listen to advice above ^ on glowplugs.
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IMO new FICM's are made with the same components that often times fail. Yes, the soldering is also an issue that many have fixed themselves, but frequently the issue is component failure. That said, my opinion is that Ed's repair is the best option as he upgrades the critical components.
Listen to advice above ^ on glowplugs.
Listen to advice above ^ on glowplugs.
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Edit .............
Looks like the OEM service is as you said - he just replaces the out-of-spec components ($195 and $225). He upgrades components for the Premium ($325) and Ultra service ($425 for lifetime warranty).
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From: Rudy, AR
Scan Gauge shows No Codes and the VLT is 14.1 I am assuming that is good?
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Could be wrong, but I don't believe that that is completely true - especially on the premium service. I guess I will check out the website - haven't been there in a long time.
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Looks like the OEM service is as you said - he just replaces the out-of-spec components ($195 abd $225). He upgrades components for the Premium ($325) and Ultra service ($425 for lifetime warranty).
Edit .............
Looks like the OEM service is as you said - he just replaces the out-of-spec components ($195 abd $225). He upgrades components for the Premium ($325) and Ultra service ($425 for lifetime warranty).
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From: Rudy, AR
So sorry Josh did not intentionally overlook you ............Reps to you man Sorry for the oversight....Please forgive me