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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Auto Engineuity vs. Balloon Test?

As mention on my other posts about white/black smoke.

Is it a good idea to buy a Auto Engineuity Scanner now to test the condition of the injectors? Which model should I buy for Ford 6.0?

It started right up even with the smoke last week, and I drove to work and back home ~ 60 miles last week. I have not start up the engine since. Will it be more damage to the engine if I hook up the AE and run the engine until operation temperature ~20 minute +?

Or just spend the time to do the balloon test with the glow plugs (engine not running)?

I plan to clean up the garage then start the truck up long enough to put it the garage to work on the injector. Seem to me running another 20 minutes might hurt the engine/injectors even more.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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ID scan for DTC you might get a Hit there

Hydrolock may happen fast

Hard to say it could go either way
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
ID scan for DTC you might get a Hit there

Hydrolock may happen fast

Hard to say it could go either way
Benny,

Don't know what you mean by "ID scan" the Scangauge II show no code so far. If there a possibility of hydrolock, I will not run the engine to oprerating temp to run the AE test.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by VQT
Benny,

Don't know what you mean by "ID scan" the Scangauge II show no code so far. If there a possibility of hydrolock, I will not run the engine to oprerating temp to run the AE test.
Scangauge isn't a very good code reader, especially pending or "soft" codes that haven't set a CEL.

Autozone has a decent code reader.

Do you have SCT tunes? The SCT usually picks up pending codes.

Josh
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Scangauge isn't a very good code reader, especially pending or "soft" codes that haven't set a CEL.

Autozone has a decent code reader.

Do you have SCT tunes? The SCT usually picks up pending codes.

Josh
I have nothing, only ScanGuage II. The truck is stock. Don't even know what SCT tunes mean

I have the coolant filter, and I don't consider coolant filter a modification to the performance of the engine, just a preventive measure for the inadequate oil cooler design.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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With it blowing compression into the fuel rail all you're doing is damaging the rest of the injectors AND if you keep overfueling that cylinder you take the chance of melting a piston. I'd think you would have a contribution code from the bad cylinder. Regardless, I'd still pull and reseal all the injectors in that bank. You can clean/polish the spool valves while they're out.
 
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With it blowing compression into the fuel rail all you're doing is damaging the rest of the injectors AND if you keep overfueling that cylinder you take the chance of melting a piston. I'd think you would have a contribution code from the bad cylinder. Regardless, I'd still pull and reseal all the injectors in that bank. You can clean/polish the spool valves while they're out.
Yes, I will pull and reseal all injectors on the driver side. Just want to make sure that the glow plug balloon test is adequate to determine the faulty injectors.

I also think that while I am at it and if we have the time, pull the other bank to reseal the injectors too, is it advisable?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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"I'd think you would have a contribution code from the bad cylinder. Regardless"

So, you are saying go ahead and buy the AE scanner to read the current trouble codes in the truck computer to determine which injector/cylinder compression issues without having to run the engine?

Sorry for the dump questions, since I never seen any of the code reader in real life yet.
 
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
ID scan for DTC you might get a Hit there

Hydrolock may happen fast

Hard to say it could go either way


I would
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If I was you I would try to cylinder balance test it but if it starts Fuel Knocking or Smoking WAY Bad KILL IT FAST
 
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The bad injector will be noticeable compared to the others.

My thoughts would be to replace the bad injector with a Ford reman.

O-ring the other injectors and polish the spool valves while they are out too.

Possibly consider replacing the o-rings in the rail as well. Purely optional.

Depends on your time, the opposite bank isn't a bad idea, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of applies as well.

Josh
 
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I believe Auto Zone loans out scanners if you aren't driving the truck.

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I believe Auto Zone loans out scanners if you aren't driving the truck.

Josh
Forgot about AutoZone.

Thanks;
 
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