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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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If your Batterys can Engauge starter and Turn Over Motor that's Pretty Good sign

What does yours Do??
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Is this Testing them Unhooked with your DVM Right??

A Fulley Charged Battery Tested UNHOOKED Should be at 12.68 Volts

When you Have the Truck running and the ALternator is Charging you want to see 13.5 Volts Up into the 14.3-5 volts range But this is with Truck RUNNING With ME?????
Ok. Volt meter said 12.4. I'm going by what jswartz said, and, he said dead batts. I've been unable to start the truck at all since this problem started. I've no way to tell if the alternator works without removing it from the truck and taking it to someone. Might be the next step in the process.

By the way here's the link to the thread I mentioned before:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-idle-mod.html
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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If your Batterys can Engauge starter and Turn Over Motor that's Pretty Good sign

What does yours Do??
No. Turn the key to on or acc. and the radio came on tuned to AM 530. Turn the key to start and all I got was a clicking noise. Stopped trying when jswartz said if I kept trying I could kill the ficm.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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No. Turn the key to on or acc. and the radio came on tuned to AM 530. Turn the key to start and all I got was a clicking noise. Stopped trying when jswartz said if I kept trying I could kill the ficm.
Which points to dead batteries.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jswartz84
Which points to dead batteries.

OK Yes 100% with ya

But they wont Charge??
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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I stand corrected, rapid clicking in start is batteries. Low charge at least,
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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It is good to know the "work-arounds" on battery testing, but why discourage the OP from actually having each one load tested - a proper load test will always tell you more than a voltage check. It truly is the best place to start!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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OK Yes 100% with ya

But they wont Charge??
No. Left them on the charger for several hours and they never got over 12.4v.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by atomicglock

Your right. I probably sent 12 volts to the pcm. I tried following the instructions on the mod. No one said anything about only 5 volts. As a matter of fact, I asked about this in another thread I'd started and was told I could hook up to any 12v wire as I didn't have the ability to install the upfitter switches.

The Colors you have at Least the "BCPSW Circuit" is OK to Give 12 volt



INPUT (VPWR)



BCPSW

PCM Pin C1-09 Circuit No. 2248 Wire Color: Purple / Lt. Green

• Applying vehicle battery voltage to this wire begins BCP.

• Engine speed is sent to 1200 rpm when all safety enablers are met, regardless of the degree

of battery charge.

• After 1200 rpm, BCP regulates engine speed based upon the degree of battery charge, up to

2400 rpm maximum


The Other way was adjustable Idle control that uses V-Ref 5 volt or less
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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It is good to know the "work-arounds" on battery testing, but why discourage the OP from actually having each one load tested - a proper load test will always tell you more than a voltage check.
The more I think about it, I think I'll take the batts. and the alternator to Autozone for testing. It's free and can't hurt anything. Right?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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The more I think about it, I think I'll take the batts. and the alternator to Autozone for testing. It's free and can't hurt anything. Right?
Great idea. Won't hurt anything.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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No. Left them on the charger for several hours and they never got over 12.4v.
Still wouldn't crank Just clicking after all that time couple hours anyway??

It looks like you Ran it way down cranking and the PCM has reset

So maybe all the cranking Killed them?? IDK Charge them for 12 Hours

This where the Hydro test comes in Handy
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jswartz84
Great idea. Won't hurt anything.

Yes sir ^^
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Still wouldn't crank Just clicking after all that time couple hours anyway??

It looks like you Ran it way down cranking and the PCM has reset

So maybe all the cranking Killed them?? IDK Charge them for 12 Hours

This where the Hydro test comes in Handy
Use to have one of those little hydrometers years ago. Just couldn't lay my hands on it today.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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If it only bad batterys they Picked a Heck of a Time to Go Bad LOL

Has thte battery light been coming on latly??

What does the wire you got power from do with Key out Ignition??? I just wonder if it hooked up in a Way to Drain the Batterys But IDK what circuit
 
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