This is the pm I sent tugly so you guys are not in the dark of my findings. Hopefully it helps someone one day

whole lotta huh???
This is where one of those moments I know I don't know what I'm looking at. Would you mind having a look at these numbers for me. I would like to get down to the bottom of this power loss once and for all. This is what I've pulled with the truck semi warm sitting in the driveway at idle.
IPR 11.2%
ICP 745-765ish
EOT 65.5*C
EBP 400-410
Load 22-23%
Vacuum -1 to -1.3 psi
Voltage 12.8
Injection pulse with 2000-2100
Trans temp 47.4*C

Driving down the road during wot icp only hit around 2300 and ipr at 67.7ish. In 80economy. Thanks if you have the time.

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Johnny...and your get'n these readings from the TORQUE APP?

 

Yes sir. It even says I make 290 Hp at 600 ft pounds lol

 

Johnny,

Been reading this thread and seem to have a similiar problem. Can you tell me what all of those abbreviations stand for and how you tested them on your phone?

 

Johnny,
Did anybody ever tell you about these numbers, if they were good, bad, indifferent, etc....? I talked to torque customer support yesterday. They now have the app and OBD II for iphone. Little more expensive than the android stuff though. Should have my plug by early next week.

 

Awesome that's good to hear. Tugly and I went over them in detail in a few PMs I don't remember the verdict no but I know with my tuner out of the truck it feels like it has just as much power if not more at the top end just not as snappy on the bottom end.

 

That's funny. I have the Superchips stage 1 and off road tuner and the one from Banks. The only one I even notice is the "off road" program. The other 2 don't feel much different than stock.

 

Hey my name is Rob and I have a 7.3 haha just sayin whats up

 

Alright fellas this one is back. I've been running the truck for two weeks now ever day. The power loss is still there. It's getting to the point of I don't want to drive it... But I have to.
I have the torque pro app now and I can read just about everything. I just got all the gauges set up on it that tugly recommend on his on going thread.
I pulled the tuner out and it's sitting in the garage now. The truck is still acting the same way. ICP seems to be just a tad low 2500-2600 psi at wot. So I don't think that's the problem. Fipw the most I've seen is 3.2 for a very brief second with a semi cold engine. I don't recall ipr I can check on my way home I don't think it ever got above 17ish. Ebp I'll check on my way hone too and see where it peaks.
What is "normal" load on an engine under normal acceleration? I'm seeing 50-70% that seems unusually high but I have nothing to compare it to.
Fuel flow is at .02 gpm.
I pulled almost all my gauges out of the truck. All I have in here now are LPO boost and a volt gauge. I did notice an increase in egt by roughly 100-200 degrees and normal crusing speeds when I had the gauges and tuner in it.
Any ideas

 

Ah... we're getting somewhere. I'll assume you have stock injectors, or a stock tune will do weird things to you.

It's not enough to have a snapshot of data from one moment - while trying to memorize a bunch of gauges. A recording of the important sensors is needed, and Torque does this. Just go into your logging feature and set up the PIDs you want to record. I believe there's an option for Torque to log every gauge you have on your display, plus any PID you choose invisibly. When I'm sussing out a power loss, I look at -
Speed
RPMs
ICP
IPR
FIPW
Engine Oil Temperature (I have been sabotaged by runs on a semi-cold engine)
EBP
Boost

That's a lot of PIDs to record, and I still have to look at my logs for the sampling rate with so many PIDs logging. I'll get on that today, because I want to know.

I also have a Fuel Pressure gauge, and that one slapped me upside the head when I first installed it... it solved so many mysteries. I feel this should have been a factory gauge, right alongside with Transmission Temperature and EGTs.

Give up on that Gallons per Minute for the time being, we have not yet "certified" that yet as a group. Based on some of the other wonky formulas in the Ford Enhanced PIDs, I trust nothing until I've verified it somehow. If your fill-up matches what Torque says it should be, please share that in the Torque Pork thread.

 

Yep stock sticks stock tune the tuner is completely out of the truck. I just set up and I'm ready to log on the way home.
What's normal eot? I haven't seen much more then 140 but I've only driven a few miles.

 

180-190 is normal when completely warmed up.

 

EDIT: Deleted information after reviewing

 

That is a very low oil temp reading.
The ambient temp on my way to work this morning was 37 degrees and my oil temp was about 200 degrees while cruising at 65 mph. My EOT normally runs about 5-10 degrees warmer then ECT unless I am towing something (then it runs a bit warmer still...)

 

I just went back and checked my screen shots it got to 186.8 I stand corrected sorry guys