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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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going to go pick up scan gauge hopefully will have some vital info soon
 
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JWREO
definitely not running any better, going to attempt cleaning the egr valve, any suggestions
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Best way to pull it is to use 2 small pry bars


Like this

Pry both bars together one each side opposing each other it will pop right out This works LOTS Better then the Wire method

It needs to be pry straight up this why 2 bars is best
1 Bar pry will pinch it in the hole and you will fight it
 
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JWREO
going to go pick up scan gauge hopefully will have some vital info soon

Sent a PM for Gauge Codes you will need to program into it

Edit it wont let me PM you WTF

you have 30 posts

Here is a Start

SGII ENTERING THE X-GAUGES FOR SETUP

V-REF
TXD=07E0221155
RXF=046245110655
RXD=3010
MTH=006433330000
Barometric Pressure (PSI)
TXD: 07E0221442
RXF: 046285140642
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: BAR
Exhaust Back Pressure
TXD: 07E0221445
RXF: 046285140645
RXD: 3010
MTH: 001D00500000
NAM: EBP
KO=103 (15) LI=110 (16) HI=110 (16) OR=55 - 607 (8 -88) kPA (PSI)
BOOST (BST)
TXD= 07E0221440
RXF= 046285140640
RXD= 3010
MTH= 01220320****
NAME=Boost (PSI).
In order to get the proper boost value enter the MAP XGauge. Get a reading
from it with the key in the on position but the engine off. Based on the reading change
the last 4 digits of the MTH value that corresponds to your reading in the table to the
right.
12.6 - - FF82
12.5 - - FF83
12.4 - - FF84
12.3 - - FF85
12.2 - - FF86
12.1 - - FF87
12.0 - - FF88
11.9 - - FF89
11.8 - - FF8A
14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A
FICM Logic Power (Volts) (Should be 12 volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FLP
KO=12.0 LI=13.5 HI=13.5 OR=10.5-15.5
FICM Main Power (Volts) (Should be 47-48) Your FMP should never dip below 45. If it does, your FICM is toast and needs repaired or replaced.
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FMP
KO=47 LI=47.5 HI=47.5 OR=40-52 (yes, that is what it says from Ford)
FICM Vehicle Power (Volts) (Should be 12 Volts, should not drop below 10.25 for more than 60 seconds, or 9.0 for 4 seconds. TSB 09-24-03)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 006401000000
NAM: FVP
KO=12.0 LI=14.0 HI=14.0 OR=10.5-15.5
Inj. Control Press. (ICP / HPOP)
TXD: 07E0221446
RXF: 046205140646
RXD: 3010
MTH: 003900640000
NAM: ICP
KO=0 LI=625.5 HI=1400-1450 OR=0-4045

ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV
KO=0.2 LI=1.0 HI=1.8 OR=.15-4.7 Volts

IPR Duty Cycle
TXD: 07E0221434
RXF: 046285140634
RXD: 3008
MTH: 0DCA03E8000A
NAM: IPR %
KO=14.84 LI=24 HI=40.60 OR=0-50 %
MAP and Volts should already be in the gauge.
MAP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E0220900
RXF: 046205090600
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000104000000
NAM: MPV
Note: This one seems a bit odd, but try it out and let me know if you need finer resolution. This one will go by whole numbers, but the range is something like +/- 32 Volts which seems weird for a sensor – they’re usually 0-5 volts
EP Volts (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AE
RXF: 0462451606AE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100800000
NAM: EPV
Note: This one may have weird readings if the values get to high, let me know.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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THANKS!!!

Here is what I have so far:
FMP 47.5-48
FLP 11.5-13
ICP 580-590 at idle
EPV 5

still trying to get the other values....NO codes
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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FMP 47.-48.5
MAP 14.3 KOEO 14.6 idle
ICV 1.
FLP 11-13
ICP 578-590 Idle

let me know what else you need to see, I have taken it on a few runs trying to gt a code but nothing so far, still has miss between 1100 and 2000
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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How did the EGR valve look? Do you still have the EGR cooler, or an EGR delete?

Here are the misfire codes. You can watch four at a time. Not sure if it counts, or only shows them when it's missing.

COUNTS MISFIRES IN EACH CYLINDER

Cylinder #1 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E022160E

RXF: 04620516060E

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 1CM

Cylinder #2 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E022160F

RXF: 04620516060F

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 2CM

Cylinder #3 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221610

RXF: 046205160610

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 3CM

Cylinder #4 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221611

RXF: 046205160611

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 4CM

Cylinder #5 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221612

RXF: 046205160612

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 5CM

Cylinder #6 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221613

RXF: 046205160613

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 6CM

Cylinder #7 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221614

RXF: 046205160614

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 7CM

Cylinder #8 Cumulative Misfires

TXD: 07E0221615

RXF: 046205160615

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: 8CM
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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havent been able to pull EGR yet, got sidde tracked with wife and kids....the truck is bone stock; barring any major expenses it will have studs and egr/oil cooler taken care of next month. Thank you all for the scan codes! I'm worse than a kid at christmas playing with it...I will enter these misfire codes and see what it tells me...yesterday I pulled the charge pipe to clean the brass nipple for the MAP, I guess I didn't get it tightened back up enough because it popped of this morning when i went for a test run to track HPOP pressure....scared the crap out of me.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Just pulled EGR and Cleaned it....if it was working i don't know how, it was pretty caked up with soot. I ran the misfire codes, no cylinders reporting a misfire. I wil continue to research and monitor, I am adding archoil when it gets here..should be tomorrow. You guys have been a great help to me I hope I can return the favor someday.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JWREO
Just pulled EGR and Cleaned it....if it was working i don't know how, it was pretty caked up with soot. I ran the misfire codes, no cylinders reporting a misfire. I wil continue to research and monitor, I am adding archoil when it gets here..should be tomorrow. You guys have been a great help to me I hope I can return the favor someday.

Maybe cleaning the EGR valve solved the problem. Some EGR codes,


EGR Duty Cycle (Percent)

TXD: 07E022166E

RXF: 04620516066E

RXD: 3010

MTH: 006440000000 006440000000

NAM: EGR

KO=0 LI=0-15 HI=32 OR=0-44 %

EGR Throttle Position Control Signal

TXD: 07E022096C

RXF: 04620509066C

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00647FFF0000

NAM: ETP

EGR Valve Position (mm)

TXD: 07E022096A

RXF: 04620509066A

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: EVP

Note: EGR Valve Position in hundredths of a millimeter, where 0 mm indicates a closed EGR valve position.

EGR Valve Position Desired (%)

TXD: 07E02209D2

RXF: 0462050906D2

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00647FFF0000

NAM: EVD

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

EGR Valve Position Measured (%)

TXD: 07E02209FE

RXF: 0462050906FE

RXD: 3010

MTH: 00647FFF0000

NAM: EVM
Note: MEASURED EGR Valve Position, in %, where a low value indicates a closed EGR valve (0 EGR flow), and a high value indicates an open EGR valve.

KO=0 LI=0 HI=9.72 OR=0 - 14 PERCENT



EGR Valve Position (Volts 0-5)

TXD: 07E022167E

RXF: 04620516067E

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000133330000

NAM: EGV

KO=0.8 LI=0.8 -1.0 HI=1.3 OR=0.6 - 3.5 VOLT
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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These are also nice to have,

DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)

TXD: 07E0220200

RXF: 046205020600

RXD: 3008

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: DTC

Counts trouble code cycles

Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)

TXD: 07E022099F

RXF: 04620509069F

RXD: 3010

MTH: 000100040000

NAM: FSS

KO=0 LI=533 HI=488 OR=0-4000

Fan Speed Sensor Duty Cycle (%)

TXD: 07E022091F

RXF: 04624509061F

RXD: 3010

MTH: 013103E80000

NAM: FDC

Camshaft & Crankshaft Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)

TXD: 07E02209CD

RXF: 0462050906CD

RXD: 3000 (3001 alternate)

MTH: 000100010000

NAM: SYC

KO=0 LI=1 HI=1 OR 0-1 (NO/YES)
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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ok so new symptom after cleaning EGR... while cruising still has miss, if i let of pedal and then try to accelerate there is no response at first black smoke pours out exhaust, then she catches up and away we go happens every time i slow down and try to accelerate.
was watching EGR on gauge no just read 0 whole time
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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I think it has to be to a certain temp before the egr valve will start moving. Mine would typically start after about 8 minutes of driving. The black smoke and throttle response problem you are seeing was the same symptoms I had before I did my delete. You can monitor the EVD and EVM values and they should stay pretty close together. Turns out my valve did not follow the commanded position very well.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Post these Sensor info below it will help Diagnose why you have the DTC P2262

The P2262 must be taken care of and Solved before Moving On



<table width="826" dir="LTR" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="7"><tbody><tr><td height="3" valign="TOP" colspan="3"> Truck in park or neutral at all times during the test
</td></tr><tr><td height="3" valign="TOP" colspan="3">ECT at 190* or close to And EOT at 185* or higher
</td></tr><tr><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">A/C Off
</td><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">Created by Piolet
</td><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">3/17/2013
</td></tr><tr><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">KOEO = Key On Engine Off
</td><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">Updated
</td><td width="33%" height="3" valign="TOP">3/25/2013
</td></tr><tr><td height="3" valign="TOP" colspan="3">Low Idle = Let truck idle on its own
</td></tr><tr><td height="3" valign="TOP" colspan="3">High Idle = 2,500 rpm
</td></tr></tbody></table>

BARO
MAP
EBP
VGT%

Now when you drive the truck and smash the pedal to the Metal Check out Boost PSI and Post what the Highest Boost PSI you get. This will help see if the turbo is working
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JWREO
was watching EGR on gauge no just read 0 whole time

Might be the SGII X-Gauge Code or some the early trucks wont show that EGR gauges
 
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Old Aug 18, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Black smoke is unburnt diesel fuel. It sounds like there is fuel getting passed one of the injector O-rings. That's what it sounds like, not saying that's what it is.


What EGR code are you reading? You can read EGR desired vs EGR measured.

Also check the DTC count, see if there are any codes.

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