Bellowed up pipes?
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i'd say, 90% of us, are towing, with no complaints, WITH our stock turbo. Ya maybe a w.w. here/there, or ported housing or bigger exhaust housing, but stock it is.
S366 Complete Turbo Kit, Ford (1994-03) 7.3L, stainless steel
I know i wouldnt spend 1800 buks on a turbo that cant be rebuilt...
S366 Complete Turbo Kit, Ford (1994-03) 7.3L, stainless steel
I know i wouldnt spend 1800 buks on a turbo that cant be rebuilt...
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More Turbo
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From: Chariton, IA
i'd say, 90% of us, are towing, with no complaints, WITH our stock turbo. Ya maybe a w.w. here/there, or ported housing or bigger exhaust housing, but stock it is.
S366 Complete Turbo Kit, Ford (1994-03) 7.3L, stainless steel
I know i wouldnt spend 1800 buks on a turbo that cant be rebuilt...
S366 Complete Turbo Kit, Ford (1994-03) 7.3L, stainless steel
I know i wouldnt spend 1800 buks on a turbo that cant be rebuilt...
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From: Pea Ridge, AR
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Another would be Carson Stauffer
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I'd like to know what the metal used is from one to the other. I know the International up pipes look a lot more professional grade. Dorman's look cheap and thus are.
Again, just how I see it.
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When it comes to sensors and functional MOVING parts, I will almost always go OEM. However, I was able to buy a new OEM IPR, OEM turbo rebuild kit and paint/wraps for my Dormans by not buying into the IH Bellowed Up-Pipe hype....and all for the SAME PRICE. I could not justify the cost of those IH pipes at MORE THAN TWICE the price. There is nothing to go wrong with the Dormans now that they are on. I had to take a couple of minutes and grind some bolts down. No problem! I inspected the welds the Chinese lady did, and they looked flawless. I'm thinking about hiring her to do some welding around the house, because she is pretty damn good! Bolts are the same grade and identical to the IH bolts. So are the little gaskets.
If we were arguing about almost anything else, I'd be with Rich and Preston. On this specific part, I am not.
If we were arguing about almost anything else, I'd be with Rich and Preston. On this specific part, I am not.
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I'm just saying, I didn't purchase a Dorman 7.3 F250, I bought an International 7.3 Ford F250. Just how I see it.
I'd like to know what the metal used is from one to the other. I know the International up pipes look a lot more professional grade. Dorman's look cheap and thus are.
Again, just how I see it.
I'd like to know what the metal used is from one to the other. I know the International up pipes look a lot more professional grade. Dorman's look cheap and thus are.
Again, just how I see it.
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Do you have pics of these Dorman's? Nicmike posted some I believe and they do not look anything like the Internationals. When it comes to bicycles there's different purities of aluminum and steel which separates the quality. I'm betting the Dorman's are a lesser metal. But I may be wrong.
I'm agreeing that to save money and use it elsewhere is okay, I understand that, but had Dorman built a knock off truck all the bolts would need to be cut and the truck would shake itself to pieces and be known as the worst diesel on the road. and the paint finish would not be the same.
I'm not trying to insult you and perhaps I need to keep quiet more often and keep my opinions to myself (but where's the fun in that?
), it's just how I see things.
I'll put aftermarket lights and things such as that on the truck and we all know they work well, but when it comes to the engine I want mine OEM, that's all.
I'm agreeing that to save money and use it elsewhere is okay, I understand that, but had Dorman built a knock off truck all the bolts would need to be cut and the truck would shake itself to pieces and be known as the worst diesel on the road. and the paint finish would not be the same.
I'm not trying to insult you and perhaps I need to keep quiet more often and keep my opinions to myself (but where's the fun in that?
), it's just how I see things. I'll put aftermarket lights and things such as that on the truck and we all know they work well, but when it comes to the engine I want mine OEM, that's all.
Got Data?
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Cody may weigh in here - I think he has said that 160/100's (stage II's) can work with stock turbos with the right tuning (his!). I dont pretend to understand this, but I had hoped to make my rebuildable stocker work when the time comes for bigger sticks. Maybe just a change to the turbine housing for better flow/lower EGTs, like the van turbo has.
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Cody may weigh in here - I think he has said that 160/100's (stage II's) can work with stock turbos with the right tuning (his!). I dont pretend to understand this, but I had hoped to make my rebuildable stocker work when the time comes for bigger sticks. Maybe just a change to the turbine housing for better flow/lower EGTs, like the van turbo has.
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I'd like to contribute to the question of stock turbo... the image below was when I had stock injectors and turbo.
Any guesses why I went 38R? Cody has the ability to live-tune his own truck, and he had stock intake to go with that stock turbo. That image above shows what happens when you up the in and the out (AIS and 4" exhaust).
Any guesses why I went 38R? Cody has the ability to live-tune his own truck, and he had stock intake to go with that stock turbo. That image above shows what happens when you up the in and the out (AIS and 4" exhaust).
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Because, Lt. Dan told you to..
My guess is because of "bigger oil"(t500) being fed to the neeewwww injectors, with the uncooperating tunes to go with it.
My guess is because of "bigger oil"(t500) being fed to the neeewwww injectors, with the uncooperating tunes to go with it.
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From: D.C. but heart's in TEXAS
BUT WAIT! The International up pipes cost TWICE AS MUCH...they must be better metal because of it!!! Don't forget ladies and gentlemen, IH was selling these up pipes for $200 only 2-3 years ago, until they realized all of the Ford PSD owners were retrofitting their engines with the T444E bellowed pipe setup because it was a better design. Then, magically, the price doubled almost overnight. How much do those Dorman pipes cost? Oh yeah, $200. Coincidence?
Supply and demand. Anyone want to place bets on what the IH bellowed up pipe prices are going to do in the next few years now that Dorman has a viable alternative?