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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:15 AM
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CCV mod variation?

I can't remember where I heard this idea, and I'm pretty dang sure I can't claim it for my own. It might even be a really bad idea so I wouldn't want to claim it anyway.
Preface: I hate the stink of the CCV being open to atmosphere. Let's not even talk about the looks I get when atmospheric conditions are just right and it looks like I have a cloud of smoke coming out from under the truck. So, I'm wondering if creating a CCV mod variation that involves a closed, drainable container would be possible. Something like having the doghouse connected to a container the approximate size of a soup can (the inlet coming straight down into the container) and an outlet connected from the side back to the air intake. No oil condensing in the intake, plus the vacuum created by the air intake could ensure the CC is vented as effectively as possible.

Dumb idea? I'm no engineer (heck, I'm a sub-par shadetree mechanic at best), my current studies are in a very different direction, but in theory it could kill two birds with one stone. If there is space for something like that around the engine compartment anyway.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by milman
Dumb idea?
Nope!

Buncha guys have done this. I have all the parts for it minus the petcock. Been too lazy to source it and finish it.

There are a few threads here with pictures and step-by-step procedures.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:25 AM
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Great idea, if you want to keep the mod. Search for CCV catch can you should be able to find some information.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:30 AM
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Some have also welded a small dia. tube at a 45 degree angle or so near the tailpipe and routing it there, out with the exhaust.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:55 AM
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Something like this. The top photo routes to atmosphere after the catch can scrubs oily vapor and the middle photo is designed to route back to the intake.
The bottom photo shows the catch can installed under the truck.

Note:When you route to atmosphere even with a catch can, you will still get some smoke from under the truck. The catch can isn't designed to eliminate that just catch the oily vapor.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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Ed, (baddogkuzz) has a catch can mounted on the firewall and than it plumbs back into the manifold. Look in his profile for a pic of it. Maybe he'll chime in and give more info on it.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Here is the one I made for my truck.











 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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Mine is similar to ponyboy chris's. Mounted outboard of the frame behind the left tire splash guard. One hose from the dog house to the can, one from the can back to the intake where it originally went. Clean, neat, closed, seems to work.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DISLFVR
Some have also welded a small dia. tube at a 45 degree angle or so near the tailpipe and routing it there, out with the exhaust.
This was my idea a few years ago but I couldn't figure how to get it to the other side of the engine without burning the hose up
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Some of those catches look really nice. Has anyone tested the flow pressures through them when routed back to the intake?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JOHN2001
This was my idea a few years ago but I couldn't figure how to get it to the other side of the engine without burning the hose up
When I routed the hose for mine, I went up then over the brake boost cyl. then down along the frame rail. This will allow any oil to drain back in the v/c. But,, if you wanted to connect to the tail pipe somewhere down the line, you can cross over the trans. without it contacting the engine.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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Some of those catches look really nice. Has anyone tested the flow pressures through them when routed back to the intake?
I used the copper color scrub material, I could blow through the catch can no problem. There shouldn't be a significant restriction. As I understand it, the length of travel and the mesh cause the liquid to "condense" in the catch can.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:22 AM
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Are you guys using heater hose, or something better?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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Are you guys using heater hose, or something better?
I used clear braided vinyl tubing from Home Depot, which is where I got all the pvc and fittings. I remember seeing it is hydraulic rated, don't know if better but it works. Many others use heater hose.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Here a photo of the catch can I made and I plumbed it back into the intake and it catchs about 1/2 oz about 2k miles. Now I used brass scrub pads in it. If I were to redo it I would use SS scrub pads and a upper baffle to catch more oil. I still have a little oil that makes to the IC pipes but not enough to really worry about but with a better design I feel there would be next to none. I also want to point out that I feel it is important to make sure that there is always negative crankcase pressure. Positive crankcase pressure can cause bad things to happen. I am just pointing out the what if's.
 
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