HELP!! Coolant issue or not
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HELP!! Coolant issue or not
Hey guys its about -5 Celsius or 23 Fahrenheit I checked my 6L diesel degas bottle and it has nothing in it. When I started the truck it was blowing white smoke but I have heard this is normal. I have also heard of problems where the engine will get hydro locked so I dont want to wait to long. This is my first diesel and I dont want to mess my truck up. Please help! thanks guys
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When was the last time that you checked the coolant and was it full? Did you add coolant and how much did it take? While the white is normal for cold temperatures, smell the exhaust to see if it smells like coolant. Do you have gauges to measure coolant and oil temperatures?
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I do not have any gauges, last time I checked was about 3 months ago. I am going to add some right now, Motorcraft 50 50 with distilled water and ill let you know how much it takes. I do not know if this would play factor however, I believe my electric vacuum pump is gone because I am only getting air through my defrost vents.
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Just a thought but when you did your most recent work on your truck, did you have to disconnect any of the coolant lines? Is it possible that you lost some coolant when working on it and maybe didn't notice it at the time? Just this last weekend I was working on a glow plug issue and lost a tiny bit of coolant, but it was enough that the degas bottle was empty.
You should be checking your coolant level more frequently. If I don't check mine each time I fill up, I feel like I've committed a crime. Maybe that's just me, but it gives me piece of mind knowing that it hasn't changed at all.
You should be checking your coolant level more frequently. If I don't check mine each time I fill up, I feel like I've committed a crime. Maybe that's just me, but it gives me piece of mind knowing that it hasn't changed at all.
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I will definitely take that into consideration, and now that you say that, did have an issue where i was stopped at a light and when i went to give er it just blew smoke but than popped back and vrrrrmmmm. I figured the egr was stuck? but it hasnt happened again. PS it happened 3 times
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Sometimes the egr valve will free up if you wait it out with your foot on the pedal. Might get some odd looks from other folks on the road but they'll get over it. I'd recommend giving it a good cleaning and vacuuming out the intake with the valve out.
I think what nylyon is saying is check the valve to see if it is wet. If it is, or the soot/carbon buildup, ash or whatever you want to call it is tarry looking, it could be a sign that your egr cooler is leaking and that's where your coolant is going. Hopefully that is not the case, but you want to be thorough with all this so you don't get stuck somewhere, especially with those cold temps.
I think what nylyon is saying is check the valve to see if it is wet. If it is, or the soot/carbon buildup, ash or whatever you want to call it is tarry looking, it could be a sign that your egr cooler is leaking and that's where your coolant is going. Hopefully that is not the case, but you want to be thorough with all this so you don't get stuck somewhere, especially with those cold temps.
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Glad you chime in here bismic, very good point. I am going to think outside the box though and think of other possible causes of egr marbles. We all know that our ccv system is dumping oil into our intake manifold among other things. What is the possibility that some of the carbon from exhaust gasses is sticking to the oil deposits and breaking off to get stuck in the egr system? I only bring this up because I have had chunks myself, however my coolant level never changes (unless I happen to spill some).
Sorry martinkjc didn't mean to hijack, just a good opportunity to pick bismic's brain a little
Sorry martinkjc didn't mean to hijack, just a good opportunity to pick bismic's brain a little
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Martinkjc,
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
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Martinkjc,
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
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Martinkjc,
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
Not sure what year engine you have but white smoke can be a pretty good indication of water/coolant in the combustion chamber. This could happen as a result of a head gasket failure (pretty common with these early engines), or maybe a clogged oil cooler, not allowing proper flow of coolant into the egr. With temps over 1000 degrees F coming into the egr and a restricted flow of cooolant, these can split open and allow coolant directly into the intake system instead of partially burn fuel as intented. Big Problems then.
I'd be careful before just simply adding more coolant, especially with what you describe as symptoms.
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