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the 6.7 getting mileage like the 6.4?? my ford 6.7 gets as good or better mileage than all but one of my cummins dodges and that was a single cab 2wd 93 model. the ford 6.7 gets pretty darn good mileage for what it is, at the moment its the best of the big 3 diesels. I think the dodge will get better mileage and might even reclaim the top mileage spot with SCR technology. the inline 6 of the cummins has generally been a more fuel effiecient design than the v8 diesels. we will wait and see keep in mind dodge has went through some problems and is owned by fiat, I also think fiat is doing some unwise things with the company. I think trying to make a separate ram brand is a mistake.
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If I buy a new diesel truck it's going to be a Dodge because I refuse to buy a slushbox. Sure it's only 650 torque but it's enough for me. I'm not a fan of DEF but it's better than a 6.7 with high EGR since they get crap mileage like a 6.4. The 850 torque should really get the load off the line which the Cummins has always been good at. If you like Cummins pickups the 850tq should be better. My opinion is that if you are a bug truck person like me you'll like the Cummins since they act more like a big truck IMO. If you are used to a Dmax or PS I don't think you'll like the Dodge even with 850tq since they don't have the high end like the V8s.
I agree the resale sucks but you can get a new Dodge cheaper too so I think it's a wash. The only Dodge trucks with great resale are the 12valve trucks. You can bet I'm keeping mine unless I find a nicer 12v (preferably a stick) to replace the automatic one I have.
As I said my next new truck will be a Dodge but only to get the stick. If they discontinue the g56 I'll get a Ford. 385/850 and 400/800 are both more than I need but I like the Ford truck better overall. I was opposed to Mexican assembled Dodges but now that Ford has a Mexican diesel and tcase its USA assembly and Mexican engine or USA engine and Mexican assembly. And a bunch of Chinese parts in both.
I agree the resale sucks but you can get a new Dodge cheaper too so I think it's a wash. The only Dodge trucks with great resale are the 12valve trucks. You can bet I'm keeping mine unless I find a nicer 12v (preferably a stick) to replace the automatic one I have.
As I said my next new truck will be a Dodge but only to get the stick. If they discontinue the g56 I'll get a Ford. 385/850 and 400/800 are both more than I need but I like the Ford truck better overall. I was opposed to Mexican assembled Dodges but now that Ford has a Mexican diesel and tcase its USA assembly and Mexican engine or USA engine and Mexican assembly. And a bunch of Chinese parts in both.
Well the very last time cummins has seen the MPG advantage was the 24 valve. If were not forgetting the only way the 6.7 cummins could get the payload advantage was by forcing the customers to get tow package and giving you 4:10 gear ratio wich shoots MPG in its head. Too me the cummins is dead since they stopped making the 24 valve and will be dead until they go away with the 6.7, too much wasted space when you can get the same displacement with the powerstroke + 2 more cylinders. I'd rather be able to get away fromca semi than icwould being able to count every cylinder cycle since the stroke is so damn long
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