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Hello Benny, Yes all of those surge reading are at Idiol, havent driven the truck today had to walk away from it after trying thsBST numbers every # I have tryed the map was showing 14.4 /14.6 at koeo I enterd ff70,ff71,ff6E I noticed that the txd would give me extra o after 1440-0 tryed to erace and save but allways comes back14400. Did the mth like you had still no reading.I had to walk away ,besides the wife needed help in the Orchard so didnt need Two stresses These are the BST #s that I'm useing
txd=07E221440,extra0 comming up
rxf=046285140640
rxd=3010
mth=01220320ff6E
txd=07E221440,extra0 comming up
rxf=046285140640
rxd=3010
mth=01220320ff6E
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Going Thru my notes about 1 1/2 years ago after the Heads were done when all this started we pulled some codes I dont know if I put them in this surging title or anouther one my be VGT posts anyway here they are and they never came back on .
p0488 egr throttleposition control
p1334 egr % throttle position sensor, replaced new{1yr 2 month}
p2290 ICP too low
Benny is it posible how did my icp look to you and should I enter the egr scangauge #s insted I went to the tech folders again love those pages and guys that made all the info GREAT Job .Thank you To Benny for hanging in with me on this Issue
I dont know how to rep ya yet but
p0488 egr throttleposition control
p1334 egr % throttle position sensor, replaced new{1yr 2 month}
p2290 ICP too low
Benny is it posible how did my icp look to you and should I enter the egr scangauge #s insted I went to the tech folders again love those pages and guys that made all the info GREAT Job .Thank you To Benny for hanging in with me on this Issue
I dont know how to rep ya yet but
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
Going Thru my notes about 1 1/2 years ago after the Heads were done when all this started we pulled some codes I dont know if I put them in this surging title or anouther one my be VGT posts anyway here they are and they never came back on .
p0488 egr throttleposition control
p1334 egr % throttle position sensor, replaced new{1yr 2 month}
p2290 ICP too low
Benny is it posible how did my icp look to you and should I enter the egr scangauge #s insted I went to the tech folders again love those pages and guys that made all the info GREAT Job .Thank you To Benny for hanging in with me on this Issue I dont know how to rep ya yet but
p0488 egr throttleposition control
p1334 egr % throttle position sensor, replaced new{1yr 2 month}
p2290 ICP too low
Benny is it posible how did my icp look to you and should I enter the egr scangauge #s insted I went to the tech folders again love those pages and guys that made all the info GREAT Job .Thank you To Benny for hanging in with me on this Issue
I dont know how to rep ya yet but Do any of them still come up????
AS Far as the ICP# what was it when it surged??
The time before you posted ICP numbers and Looked Like it was surging some at High Idel but Low Idel looked OK
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yea 1/12 yrs we cleared they came back 1 week later we cleared and they never came back the mech should have looked into why they kept comming back , also earlyer this morning ICP
koeo=0 lo=713, hi=1562 These are not at surge, The last post was
koeo=13/14,lo=582,hi=1438
I will keep the scan II on ICP and take a note when it does surge .
koeo=0 lo=713, hi=1562 These are not at surge, The last post was
koeo=13/14,lo=582,hi=1438
I will keep the scan II on ICP and take a note when it does surge .
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LOL, I know the log chain has left rust in the corner of the bed, Im afraid to take it out, this truck has a mind of its own two days of great running truck lets see what tomarrow will bring, two days ago ran like 
all day,what would make these trucks run bad when outside temp 80+ deg this is not motor temp or oil nor water.
all day,what would make these trucks run bad when outside temp 80+ deg this is not motor temp or oil nor water.
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sorry guys,theres going to be alot of info, did a lot of towing over the weekend so these # are under a load
1. VLT=cold 13.2 14.2 hot
2. ICP=963 cold 1151 hot 1500rpm ( surge 640/611/455 hot }koeo5 584lo
3. ICV=1.13 cold 81 hot (surge 22.4/26/28 =30.2 1500rpm hot )
4. MAP=15.2/15.4 hot {surge 0.4 hot} koeo0.1 00lo ?should be the other way around?
5. EBP=20.1/24.5 (surge 16.3 hot}koeo 14.3 16.2 lo
6. BAR=14.8 hot
7. FMP=43/45 cold 48/48.5 hot
8. IA=83 hot Idoil 105/107 hot
9. EOT=203 /208 hot
10WT=190/195 hot
11. ICV at 1900 rpm 124/135 150/154 hot ? why the change
12. CPM=at 1900rpm 119/123,243/206/174 hot {surge163}
13. VGT=hot start 203 52 at1500rpm hot
14. IPR=31.0 cold 28.5 hot 14.4 koeo 21.8 lo
15. TFC=4.08 at 1500rpm hot
I was trying my best to get all # at load while pulling a load with out Crashing one good thing wasent on my Phone at the same time LOL , but I was eatin seeds . I still cant get the boost #s BST to work going to get fuel pressure next.Thanks Guys.
1. VLT=cold 13.2 14.2 hot
2. ICP=963 cold 1151 hot 1500rpm ( surge 640/611/455 hot }koeo5 584lo
3. ICV=1.13 cold 81 hot (surge 22.4/26/28 =30.2 1500rpm hot )
4. MAP=15.2/15.4 hot {surge 0.4 hot} koeo0.1 00lo ?should be the other way around?
5. EBP=20.1/24.5 (surge 16.3 hot}koeo 14.3 16.2 lo
6. BAR=14.8 hot
7. FMP=43/45 cold 48/48.5 hot
8. IA=83 hot Idoil 105/107 hot
9. EOT=203 /208 hot
10WT=190/195 hot
11. ICV at 1900 rpm 124/135 150/154 hot ? why the change
12. CPM=at 1900rpm 119/123,243/206/174 hot {surge163}
13. VGT=hot start 203 52 at1500rpm hot
14. IPR=31.0 cold 28.5 hot 14.4 koeo 21.8 lo
15. TFC=4.08 at 1500rpm hot
I was trying my best to get all # at load while pulling a load with out Crashing one good thing wasent on my Phone at the same time LOL , but I was eatin seeds . I still cant get the boost #s BST to work going to get fuel pressure next.Thanks Guys.
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There are No Values for Pulling a Load theres to many Varibles doing it that way
The Heavier you pull the More the Values will change
Ford values are taken in Park when HOT at KOEO and Low Idel and High Idel this way we can have a set spec that can be compared from one truck to the Next
About all you can Check when driving is Make shure the sensor Value does not go out of its operating Range
The Heavier you pull the More the Values will change
Ford values are taken in Park when HOT at KOEO and Low Idel and High Idel this way we can have a set spec that can be compared from one truck to the Next
About all you can Check when driving is Make shure the sensor Value does not go out of its operating Range
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Benny, at the operating values by ford, does some of the surgeing look weird at all I noticed a few were bouncing around at hot normal operation but still trying to decifer the scan . also on a couple cold starts surged real bad seemed to run good with a load { may be I'll keep the Trailer on the truck from now on } hard to go thru drive up windows. Whats getting me is the truck starts good hot or cold. What Other scangauge #s do ya need ? .Thanks
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
sorry guys,theres going to be alot of info, did a lot of towing over the weekend so these # are under a load
1. VLT=cold 13.2 14.2 hot
2. ICP=963 cold 1151 hot 1500rpm ( surge 640/611/455 hot }koeo5 584lo
3. ICV=1.13 cold 81 hot (surge 22.4/26/28 =30.2 1500rpm hot )
4. MAP=15.2/15.4 hot {surge 0.4 hot} koeo0.1 00lo ?should be the other way around?
5. EBP=20.1/24.5 (surge 16.3 hot}koeo 14.3 16.2 lo
6. BAR=14.8 hot
7. FMP=43/45 cold 48/48.5 hot
8. IA=83 hot Idoil 105/107 hot
9. EOT=203 /208 hot
10WT=190/195 hot
11. ICV at 1900 rpm 124/135 150/154 hot ? why the change
12. CPM=at 1900rpm 119/123,243/206/174 hot {surge163}
13. VGT=hot start 203 52 at1500rpm hot
14. IPR=31.0 cold 28.5 hot 14.4 koeo 21.8 lo
15. TFC=4.08 at 1500rpm hot
I was trying my best to get all # at load while pulling a load with out Crashing one good thing wasent on my Phone at the same time LOL , but I was eatin seeds . I still cant get the boost #s BST to work going to get fuel pressure next.Thanks Guys.
1. VLT=cold 13.2 14.2 hot
2. ICP=963 cold 1151 hot 1500rpm ( surge 640/611/455 hot }koeo5 584lo
3. ICV=1.13 cold 81 hot (surge 22.4/26/28 =30.2 1500rpm hot )
4. MAP=15.2/15.4 hot {surge 0.4 hot} koeo0.1 00lo ?should be the other way around?
5. EBP=20.1/24.5 (surge 16.3 hot}koeo 14.3 16.2 lo
6. BAR=14.8 hot
7. FMP=43/45 cold 48/48.5 hot
8. IA=83 hot Idoil 105/107 hot
9. EOT=203 /208 hot
10WT=190/195 hot
11. ICV at 1900 rpm 124/135 150/154 hot ? why the change
12. CPM=at 1900rpm 119/123,243/206/174 hot {surge163}
13. VGT=hot start 203 52 at1500rpm hot
14. IPR=31.0 cold 28.5 hot 14.4 koeo 21.8 lo
15. TFC=4.08 at 1500rpm hot
I was trying my best to get all # at load while pulling a load with out Crashing one good thing wasent on my Phone at the same time LOL , but I was eatin seeds . I still cant get the boost #s BST to work going to get fuel pressure next.Thanks Guys.
Concentraite on these
ICP
ICPV
IPR%
FICM MP
BARO
EBP
MAP
VGT
BOOST
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
MAP should Never Drop Below BARO
Baro sets baseline
IDK wheather its the MAP sensor or the wiring to it
you could try to unplug map and to be Honest IDK what will happen It might surge or smoothout
Clean MAP sensor and tube with some carb cleaner
And Clean the Nipple in the Intake manafold the MAP Hose comes from
I think the pressure from running Must Block the tube or mess the sensor up IDK I had been watcching it for the last few Postes and the readings from the MAP are way Out of Whack
Baro sets baseline
IDK wheather its the MAP sensor or the wiring to it
you could try to unplug map and to be Honest IDK what will happen It might surge or smoothout
Clean MAP sensor and tube with some carb cleaner
And Clean the Nipple in the Intake manafold the MAP Hose comes from
I think the pressure from running Must Block the tube or mess the sensor up IDK I had been watcching it for the last few Postes and the readings from the MAP are way Out of Whack
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Thanks Benny, been under the back pain, Tomarrow will be work on the truck day, I'm going to pull the air filter clean the map and tubeing,pull the EBP and tubeing ,also I entered some more numbers to chew on I hope there right . Ps I missed the 0for the bst
BST koeo- o.o lo-0.3/0.6 (surge 0.0} hi-1.6/1.1
MAP koeo-0.0 lo- 0.1/0.2 hi-0.5/0.6
VGT koeo-0 lo-66 hi-36 the other day was 85
FVP koeo-12.5 lo-13.0 hi-13.0
EVD koeo-0 lo-15/16 hi-27/31 when I shut the motor off this stayed at12
ETP koeo-0 lo-3 hi-14/17/19/3 very hard keep steady on this one ? and it did hit 3 when I shut the motor off it stayed at 3too
EP -(duty cycle) koeo-0 lo-100 hi-100
EP-( psi would not come up
EVM-would not come up
is fmp and ficm volt the same I belive ficm main power is what I have
FMP koeo-48 lo-48/47.5 short time hi-47.0/47.5 I"ll get diff reading each time at 2500rpm mostly 48.0 unless when heated up it loses the power.
BST koeo- o.o lo-0.3/0.6 (surge 0.0} hi-1.6/1.1
MAP koeo-0.0 lo- 0.1/0.2 hi-0.5/0.6
VGT koeo-0 lo-66 hi-36 the other day was 85
FVP koeo-12.5 lo-13.0 hi-13.0
EVD koeo-0 lo-15/16 hi-27/31 when I shut the motor off this stayed at12
ETP koeo-0 lo-3 hi-14/17/19/3 very hard keep steady on this one ? and it did hit 3 when I shut the motor off it stayed at 3too
EP -(duty cycle) koeo-0 lo-100 hi-100
EP-( psi would not come up
EVM-would not come up
is fmp and ficm volt the same I belive ficm main power is what I have
FMP koeo-48 lo-48/47.5 short time hi-47.0/47.5 I"ll get diff reading each time at 2500rpm mostly 48.0 unless when heated up it loses the power.