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Old 03-07-2012, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by johnarahill
I hate to make you do extra work, but it's hard to tell if the spring is seated properly when you are trying to install it with the fuel bowl still attached to the HPOP reservoir. It's somewhat difficult to explain, but if you take the bowl off to install it you can see how it can get hung up wrong in there. Check all of your sensor connections, and if they are right, I'd try pulling the bowl and putting the fpr on with the port vertical as opposed to horizontal (how it is with fuel bowl still installed).
I did this tonight. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. But unfortunately, still no start. I know I have fuel flowing trough the heads,. because I'm getting it through the FRx return lines. It seems more like the injectors just aren't firing. I've checked the fuse for the ICM, but could the relay be bad? What would cause injectors to not fire on both banks? I'm thinking it's not the valve cover harness, since it's both sides.

I'm really stuck here. Luckily I have another car to commute in, but I need the truck on Saturday to help my dad out.

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Old 03-07-2012, 11:33 PM
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Are you getting a "Wait to Start" light?

Is the IPR plugged in?
 
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Where about in Arlington are you located? I may be able to run out your way and see what we can come up with. PM me your number if you would like some help. I am usually home in the evenings and can help out if you are available.
 
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Thanks for the suggestion. I actually just put a new ICP sensor in it on Sunday. It started after that, and then I moved on to the FRx. Just to be sure, I tried unplugging the new one, but it still wouldn't start.
$55.00 one..(ICP) from ebay or OEM?

Even if the spring was installed wrong, it would cause excess pressure, not no pressure.
 
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Originally Posted by BigAlsPSD
Are you getting a "Wait to Start" light?

Is the IPR plugged in?
Yes, all lights come on and go off as normal. Tach shows about 600 RPM while cranking.

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Where about in Arlington are you located? I may be able to run out your way and see what we can come up with. PM me your number if you would like some help. I am usually home in the evenings and can help out if you are available.
Awesome offer! PM sent.

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$55.00 one..(ICP) from ebay or OEM?

Even if the spring was installed wrong, it would cause excess pressure, not no pressure.
OEM, from Clay. This is what I was thinking too with regard to the FRx. Something else has gone wrong, but I just can't figure out what I did.
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:28 AM
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Thanks Ken!

A HUGE thanks to Ken (woodnthings)! He came out to my house tonight with his AE and got it running again. It took a while, AE was acting a little weird, but we ended up putting a new CPS in it. It still wouldn't turn over, but we figured my little 6 amp battery charger just wasn't enough. It took hooking up to both my car and tractor to get enough juice to start. I'll be buying a new battery charger this weekend. Ken is a great guy, and really know a lot about these trucks. I learned a lot from him and all of my digging around this week.

Thanks Ken and FTE.
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:39 AM
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CPS, nice and simple. Good job Ken. I wonder though...did you remove the a/c bracket when you installed the FRx? Possible wiring damage as it run along that bracket. Just another thought that I didn't consider with the installation of an FRx, maybe the wiring got pinched...who knows. Glad it's going, I just like knowing the issue is fully resolved.

What led to the CPS? Was there no tach signal to the PCM?
 
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:57 AM
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Thanks Josh!

The truck was acting a little weird. Power wasn't stable and I believe the biggest problem was low voltage. We charged the batteries for awhile and while taking data found no Engine RPM signal with AE. I brought spare CPS & ICP sensors with me just in case.

Swapped the CPS out (had a parts store CPS in it) to the recall grey one. While doing this noticed that I was getting shocked when I touched the engine block and suspension (little tingly ones). The truck was parked perpendicular under high tension power lines. I took my meter and stuck one end into the ground and the other end onto a ground on the truck. I was getting 28 VAC shown on the meter. . We decided to use the tractor to pull the truck out from under the lines to eliminate any of that having an effect on the problem.

As Josh mentioned, we ended up hooking the car and his tractor up to the truck to get her alive!

It was really great meeting Josh and working on his truck. It was a good night and everything worked out well!
 
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Good job Ken.
 
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Reps to you Ken.

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Reps when I can Ken.
 
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Like Ken said, it was just acting weird. The tach was coming up when we cranked it over, but then AE wasn't getting RPM info and wouldn't stay connected after each start attempt. Ken had to reconfigure it every time.

I learned that I NEED to get an AE though. I wouldn't have suspected the CPS without that extra info. Send your reps Kens way!
 
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Good to hear you are back up and running. Way to go Ken. Thats why I love this place. i tried to rep ya but im in rep jail. Im sure some others will catch it. You rock.
 
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