Build Thread: '49 F321
#76
Yes Sir! Fits Perfect! and only one drain plug to take out!
So for anyone using a JAG series 3 IFS and a 302, this aluminum pan is from a '96 Ford Explorer.
edit: I put the engine and AOD transmission in the truck, before I did anything else, That was the one of my concerns, the oil pan fitment.
I was relieved when it fit better than my previous setup on the 5.8.
So for anyone using a JAG series 3 IFS and a 302, this aluminum pan is from a '96 Ford Explorer.
edit: I put the engine and AOD transmission in the truck, before I did anything else, That was the one of my concerns, the oil pan fitment.
I was relieved when it fit better than my previous setup on the 5.8.
#77
Hey Jeff,
Your engine looks great - What sort of specs are you expecting? MPG? HP? Torque? I'm not super familiar with EFI engines. Did you rebuild it?
Outsourcing your engine work is pricey (ask me how I know?)
Those headers look pretty large - do they clear your steering?
I like it!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
Your engine looks great - What sort of specs are you expecting? MPG? HP? Torque? I'm not super familiar with EFI engines. Did you rebuild it?
Outsourcing your engine work is pricey (ask me how I know?)
Those headers look pretty large - do they clear your steering?
I like it!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
#78
Hey Jeff,
Your engine looks great - What sort of specs are you expecting? MPG? HP? Torque? I'm not super familiar with EFI engines. Did you rebuild it?
Outsourcing your engine work is pricey (ask me how I know?)
Those headers look pretty large - do they clear your steering?
I like it!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
Your engine looks great - What sort of specs are you expecting? MPG? HP? Torque? I'm not super familiar with EFI engines. Did you rebuild it?
Outsourcing your engine work is pricey (ask me how I know?)
Those headers look pretty large - do they clear your steering?
I like it!
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
It's a stock 5.0 from a '96 Explorer, so whatever HP/torque they were? I don't know. I did take it to the machine shop. It did not need bored. They cleaned it, crack checked it, honed it, new cam bearings and freeze plugs.
The heads were gone through, all the valves/seats were reground and new stem seals of course. and the polished the crankshaft. Oh they checked the rods and pistons too.
All that was $630 more than I want to spend, but it could have been alot more....
I bought a complete rering kit. I put the motor back together. New rings main and rod bearings, oil pump, etc. etc. The only thing not stock, is a "quiet" gear drive timing set. It was only a little more than a good double roller chain set. I have always wanted to use a gear drive set. I don't like sloppy chains..
The headers are Mustang ceramicoat shorties. They fit my steering when I was using the 351W and they fit even better now because the 5.0 is a little narrower. I still have the gaskets to install on the oil pan, intake, timing cover, etc. but I slapped it all together because I got to buy some valve covers, and also to get my EFI senario/ components figured out.
I spent a butt ton of time cleaning internal stuff. pistons and the lifters were all disassembled and cleaned, man that job is no fun...
#79
Hey Jeff,
I wish I had the "cojones" to rebuild my own engine. I like your approach - outsource the machine shop stuff & assemble yourself. It looks good.
We've had two different valve covers on our 351W - some flames put on by the engine guys (not my thing) so we switched to a pair of Edelbrock
covers because our top end is all their stuff. Flying their flag felt like truth in advertising...
Our engine is back up & running - the builder only used hardened tips on our push rods & the valve guides ate them by 1500 miles. Went with full hardened push rods this time around & had to use a magnet to fish out a few large pieces. I'm changing oil every couple hundred miles & have a magnetic oil plug to hopefully get the metallic chips/dust. Not ideal but good so far...
Looking good over there Jeff. Keep posting - love to keep track of how things are going for you.
Ben in Austin
I wish I had the "cojones" to rebuild my own engine. I like your approach - outsource the machine shop stuff & assemble yourself. It looks good.
We've had two different valve covers on our 351W - some flames put on by the engine guys (not my thing) so we switched to a pair of Edelbrock
covers because our top end is all their stuff. Flying their flag felt like truth in advertising...
Our engine is back up & running - the builder only used hardened tips on our push rods & the valve guides ate them by 1500 miles. Went with full hardened push rods this time around & had to use a magnet to fish out a few large pieces. I'm changing oil every couple hundred miles & have a magnetic oil plug to hopefully get the metallic chips/dust. Not ideal but good so far...
Looking good over there Jeff. Keep posting - love to keep track of how things are going for you.
Ben in Austin
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Engine progress
I have been digging and searching and researching and watching and talking and reading....even maybe a little cussing and sweating and bleeding!!!
I have been getting some great help, advice, and parts, from a member of ours.
I would like to mention him, but won't unless he approves. I want to be able to help others after I learn about this EFI setup. That day will come.
In the mean time here are some pics of my engine progress. All the external parts are on for trial and error purposes and are not bolted up but enough to try thing out. I am using the 1996 Ford Explorer 5.0 along with it's front accesories now. They are designed to be closer to the engine as the 5.0 was a tight fit in the Explorers. The main benefit is to allow the use of a belt driven fan. I am still collecting some odds and ends, but its slowly coming together!
I have been getting some great help, advice, and parts, from a member of ours.
I would like to mention him, but won't unless he approves. I want to be able to help others after I learn about this EFI setup. That day will come.
In the mean time here are some pics of my engine progress. All the external parts are on for trial and error purposes and are not bolted up but enough to try thing out. I am using the 1996 Ford Explorer 5.0 along with it's front accesories now. They are designed to be closer to the engine as the 5.0 was a tight fit in the Explorers. The main benefit is to allow the use of a belt driven fan. I am still collecting some odds and ends, but its slowly coming together!
#83
I am wanting to paint the upper intake blue, either like the block or with a Blue Metalcast. it's basically a Candy Apple Blue. Not sure yet though. I have to clean and paint the pulleys also.
I have to wrap the motor up soon. I've been milking this cow long enough!
Then tear into the tranny.
Got to get a different brake booster, the one I have is too large in diameter.
Also probably going to go back to the original steering column, shortened. I want to keep the original steering wheel and turn signal unit.
I ultimately decided to try and keep the interior relatively original looking.
I have to wrap the motor up soon. I've been milking this cow long enough!
Then tear into the tranny.
Got to get a different brake booster, the one I have is too large in diameter.
Also probably going to go back to the original steering column, shortened. I want to keep the original steering wheel and turn signal unit.
I ultimately decided to try and keep the interior relatively original looking.
#84
#85
Jeff, here's a link I ran across today on the EFI swap. It has a BUNCH of info.
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#89
#90
I now have my engine mostly done and on hold, to get the AOD transmission
rebuilt. Then I can drop the combination into it's new home, when done.
I had to clean up some tools and make room for a tranny disassembly...
That took a good week to complete.
Yesterday I tore into it. Here are some pics.
rebuilt. Then I can drop the combination into it's new home, when done.
I had to clean up some tools and make room for a tranny disassembly...
That took a good week to complete.
Yesterday I tore into it. Here are some pics.