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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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I just did something I've never done before:

I sent an box of Godiva chocolates to someone having a bad day.

So, She'll get them in about 3 weeks...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by msmenne17
Unless you track every detail including weather conditions its hard to prove. I suspect most of the people saying increased heat are a result of simply replacing a bad t-stat. I've also read that even the OEM ones aren't always good out of the box.
Your chances with a OEM t-stat are much better of working then any aftermarket one from Napa or something like that. The aftermarket ones are always crap. I never buy anything but OEM when it comes to t-stats.

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I just did something I've never done before:

I sent an box of Godiva chocolates to someone having a bad day.

So, She'll get them in about 3 weeks...
I have never heard of that brand of chocolates. I am assuming these are for your wife?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fordpower88

I have never heard of that brand of chocolates. I am assuming these are for your wife?
lol. nope. One of my soldier friends. She's in Iraq.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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You have never heard of Godiva chocolate? Shame, shame. I bet Beth has. They are wonderful.

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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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You have never heard of Godiva chocolate? Shame, shame. I bet Beth has. They are wonderful.
yup. almost a guarantee. But, They're a little spendy.

But she's protecting my freedom. Totally worth it
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Good afternoon. Chilly here. Not sure if it is even up to 20*
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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I prefer dark chocolate
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fordpower88
Your chances with a OEM t-stat are much better of working then any aftermarket one from Napa or something like that. The aftermarket ones are always crap. I never buy anything but OEM when it comes to t-stats.



I have never heard of that brand of chocolates. I am assuming these are for your wife?
Never bought an OEM stat. Might have to do that when I get around to getting things fixed up again. Do they make a time tree? I need some of that to go with my money tree.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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I prefer dark chocolate
me too... I couldn't remember what she liked, so I sent her a lb of desert truffles. Figured I couldn't go wrong.
 
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Ok guys, on the t-stat debate, it is electronically impossible for it to improve mileage. The computer naturally has two settings for fuel use. Open and closed loop. When it gets to a certain temp, it will use less fuel then when cold. It won't continue to use less just cause its slightly warmer. Not to mention 8* in the coolant won't equal the same in the combustion chamber.

If it was this simple, itd be that way outta the box. What warmer temps can do is give better heat.w Otherwise heat = wear. Warmer means oil breaks down quicker, engine stress more, and tranny as well.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Devious Delight
lol. nope. One of my soldier friends. She's in Iraq.
That is cool!

Originally Posted by DieselCamper01
You have never heard of Godiva chocolate? Shame, shame. I bet Beth has. They are wonderful.

Troy...2004 Ford F350 Rear Window and Gasket
I am sure she has. LOL

I might be thru hutch this weekend so if he still has it I may pick it up.

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I prefer dark chocolate
No dark chocolate for me.

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Never bought an OEM stat. Might have to do that when I get around to getting things fixed up again. Do they make a time tree? I need some of that to go with my money tree.
Both trees are hard to come by! LOL
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dlibson
Ok guys, on the t-stat debate, it is electronically impossible for it to improve mileage. The computer naturally has two settings for fuel use. Open and closed loop. When it gets to a certain temp, it will use less fuel then when cold. It won't continue to use less just cause its slightly warmer. Not to mention 8* in the coolant won't equal the same in the combustion chamber.

If it was this simple, itd be that way outta the box. What warmer temps can do is give better heat.w Otherwise heat = wear. Warmer means oil breaks down quicker, engine stress more, and tranny as well.
There we go! I knew Dave would step in and set us all straight!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Once you go dark chocolate you never go back...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dlibson
Ok guys, on the t-stat debate, it is electronically impossible for it to improve mileage. The computer naturally has two settings for fuel use. Open and closed loop. When it gets to a certain temp, it will use less fuel then when cold. It won't continue to use less just cause its slightly warmer. Not to mention 8* in the coolant won't equal the same in the combustion chamber.

If it was this simple, itd be that way outta the box. What warmer temps can do is give better heat.w Otherwise heat = wear. Warmer means oil breaks down quicker, engine stress more, and tranny as well.
Thanks for the explanation Dave. I've gone back and forth many times about whether or not to do it. Your explanation and Troy's advice on OEM stats settles it for me.

How's the plasticmobile doing?

Katie is driving ours for the first time in a week or so. I'll know about the oil leak when she gets home. It might still leak a little bit. I didn't RTV the corners of the valve cover where the head and timing chain cover come together. It wouldn't set this time of year anyway without a warm garage to put it in.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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That is cool!

Thanks! It completely made my day!
 
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