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Maybe some visuals might help some people. This truck is a regular cab. The seats are from a Bronco. The seat pan and tracks are from a regular cab (also the same as a crew).
Started with a bench.
Bought a pan with 40/20/40 tracks.
You need different tracks to mount the Bronco/SuperCab seats in a regular cab or you need to mod them to work as they don't match the floor pan.
The seat pan bolts to the same spot as the old bench seat does. 2 bolts, 2 studs.
Once you've mounted the new tracks to the seats and then those to the pan, it all places in as one unit and you're done.
I can not thank y'all enough. Sincerely, I know this topic has been beat to death, but hopefully it will help other mechanically challenged individuals.
The information in the below thread gave a very clear and summarized understanding, so what I was questioning had to deal with the older years.
It is a safe assumption that someone will not go wrong obtaining the seatpan discussed and shown in the multiple pictures. One could save some of these images on their phone and match them up with what they find at junk/car yard.
Is it reasonable to request this thread be stickied or added to tech info for easier reference for others?
Unfortunately I couldn't fine the correct mount. Tried ebay and was shipped a pair of buckets sliders that wouldn't fit. Ended up cutting the mounts off my bench seat and making a 40/20/40 mount. Them re-did a set of 2016 buckets. Biggest concern is trying to keep the height of the 2016 seat height down.
I'm new to the group here having just acquired a 1995 F-150 with extended cab (supercab?) and a not-ripped, but very basic front seat. I was hoping to rather simply upgrade the seat to something w/ a center section that would have a fold-down console & the usual thing I see earlier in this thread. No interest in bucket seats...I'd rather have the ability to put another passenger in the middle if needed.
From what I've gathered here, late '80s up to '96 seats should be a direct bolt-in, yes? And, this was a surprise & maybe I misread, but would early Explorer seats also be a bolt-in? I've found locally a seat from a '98 F-150...but this would be the next body/cab style, so i presume to make that work, I'm getting into some fabrication? I can cut, I can weld, I can measure & I can make pretty much anything work, but this truck is utilitarian for me (my car hobby is cars, not trucks), so keeping it as simple as possible is a nice thing. Nothing is urgent on this, so I may keep a lookout for a preferable seat from a truck with the exact same cab since that ought to be the easiest.
SuperCab is the correct term for Fords with a small back seat (and only 2 doors in this vintage, although newer SuperCabs do have front-opening doors for the rear seat).
My understanding is that if you find the 40/20/40 seat from another SuperCab or Bronco it will be a direct bolt-in. Regular cab and crew cab (full size rear seat and 4 doors) trucks share a different seat mounting design.
I THINK a person can put SuperCab/Bronco seats in a regular/crew cab if they have the mounting pan from the regular/crew cab. I don't know if it's reasonable to go the other way and put seats from a regular or crew cab in a SuperCab.
I just wanted to reiterate whats already been said, as i'm currently finishing up the 40/20/40 conversion in my 86 f150 single cab after 3 years of piecing it together...
If you have a single cab (maybe a crew cab, too?) you HAVE TO HAVE the 40/20/40 bracket from a single cab(or crew?) for a BOLT IN install, otherwise the extended cab (or whatever else) 40/20/40 will have to be drilled, shimmed, and custom mounted to the floor (8 new bolt holes vs the 4 original). This is what I originally did to mount a 40/20/40 from an extended cab in to my single cab bench truck - not really worth the hack job IMO. I found a 40/20/40 single cab via an LKQ.com online search yesterday and have just successfully transplanted the bracket and sliders from that truck ($47) onto my seats. The bracket/tracks Vadis posted above is the one you will need.
I actually got online and saw this thread because the center seat/console has two bolts that don't line up with the single cab bracket (either front or back bolts), so I want to see pics to see which studs I'll have to move.
ADDITIONALLY, it looks like 99+ F150 extended cab 40/20/40's have the exact same brackets as the ones I have from a '96? If that is true, we might be able to do what i just did and unbolt those seats from their tracks and bolt them onto ours and then we'd be able to swap newer heated/cooled/power seats into our trucks. That would be a win for me! lol
Just an FYI for all considering this Franken-truck modification, the 40-20-40 center consoles from Super Cabs and Broncos have a taller sub-frame than do the units from Regular & Crew Cabs. The bolt pattern is also slightly different as well. Neither are insurmountable challenges, but this fact does make the job a bit more complicated.
Just to piggyback on what I posted yesterday - I went back to the junkyard to get the mounting bracket for the center console seat because the bolt holes from the extended cab console seat didn't line up as I had mentioned before. While I was there I checked out some newer trucks to see if you could put newer seats in the 80-96. I looked at a 2000 XLT single cab and it had a 40/20/40 in it with a similar "fully adjustable" bracket that looks like it has the same mounts as the 92-96 single cab. I also saw the same bracket in a 1997 extended cab. You can for sure use the seats out of a 2000 era truck, even if it turns out the bracket isn't identical.
This is from the 2000 single cab on the back passenger side looking forward.
Just to piggyback on what I posted yesterday - I went back to the junkyard to get the mounting bracket for the center console seat because the bolt holes from the extended cab console seat didn't line up as I had mentioned before. While I was there I checked out some newer trucks to see if you could put newer seats in the 80-96. I looked at a 2000 XLT single cab and it had a 40/20/40 in it with a similar "fully adjustable" bracket that looks like it has the same mounts as the 92-96 single cab. I also saw the same bracket in a 1997 extended cab. You can for sure use the seats out of a 2000 era truck, even if it turns out the bracket isn't identical.
This is from the 2000 single cab on the back passenger side looking forward.
They most definitely are.. At a different junk yard this morning for other things so I looked around. Several other bone stock trucks have them. Seem to be very common in the 10th gen trucks.
They most definitely are.. At a different junk yard this morning for other things so I looked around. Several other bone stock trucks have them. Seem to be very common in the 10th gen trucks.
no, they are NOT . Ill give you a couple reasons why
The fabric that hangs down to cover the tracks is a telltale sign
Then the 1/4" adjustable fabricated brackets are the other
The stock factory OEM seats have plastic trim on the sides of the seats with no fabric hanging down.
The stock factory OEM brackets are NOT fabricated from flat stock. They are stamped steel.
The only thing stock on that photo is the factory torx bolt holding it to the floor
Diesel_Brad, I have to disagree and reaffirm they are - unless the dozen plus trucks I looked at between the two junk yards all had their brackets made by the same guy. Lol.
I took some pics when I was at the first junk yard with the '00 single cab and the '97 extended cab. You'll see below that the floor brackets are identical to each other, both with the hanging down fabric and the flat stock portions of bracket. I agree that the 87-96 40/20/40 brackets are in fact stamped steel and different, as I have both the one for the single cab and the multi-piece bracket for the extended cab of that generation. The 97-03 generation with 40/20/40 seats from every single one I looked at had the same exact bracket pictured below.
Diesel_Brad, I have to disagree and reaffirm they are - unless the dozen plus trucks I looked at between the two junk yards all had their brackets made by the same guy. Lol.
I took some pics when I was at the first junk yard with the '00 single cab and the '97 extended cab. You'll see below that the floor brackets are identical to each other, both with the hanging down fabric and the flat stock portions of bracket. I agree that the 87-96 40/20/40 brackets are in fact stamped steel and different, as I have both the one for the single cab and the multi-piece bracket for the extended cab of that generation. The 97-03 generation with 40/20/40 seats from every single one I looked at had the same exact bracket pictured below.
Weird.. there's at least 10 others with identical seats and brackets. Someone must have been doing a lot of aftermarket seats around here.. Damn fine job, too. They look factory! So the last year F150s came with 40/20/40's was in 1996 then? The link you sent was for a 60/40.
Weird.. there's at least 10 others with identical seats and brackets. Someone must have been doing a lot of aftermarket seats around here.. Damn fine job, too. They look factory! So the last year F150s came with 40/20/40's was in 1996 then? The link you sent was for a 60/40.
I am not completely up on the 97+ F150s but they really liked the 40/60 in those 97-03 trucks. I know the 04+trucks have the 40/20/40 option
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